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Hey all,

 

I was curious about your first experiences with the GOV OFF in the R22. I was all worked up by some A&P buddies of mine that had time in the Brantly, Bell 47, Bell 206, and R22. They kept telling me my motorcycle experience was going to mess me up with the throttle. I found the correlation to be really good, as long as you moved the collective normally, very little throttle work seemed to be needed. I did find myself fixating on the rpm a lot more and my left hand was getting fatigued even though the throttle friction was holding just fine. The machine is new and had less than 100 hrs on it though.

 

 

 

Later

 

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I ride a bike and I still have to stop and think of which way to turn the throttle. That's why I leave the governor on :)

 

Yeah, wierd and backward.

 

Later.

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Hey all,

 

I was curious about your first experiences with the GOV OFF in the R22. I was all worked up by some A&P buddies of mine that had time in the Brantly, Bell 47, Bell 206, and R22. They kept telling me my motorcycle experience was going to mess me up with the throttle. I found the correlation to be really good, as long as you moved the collective normally, very little throttle work seemed to be needed. I did find myself fixating on the rpm a lot more and my left hand was getting fatigued even though the throttle friction was holding just fine. The machine is new and had less than 100 hrs on it though.

 

 

 

I cant comment. When I started flying the R22 it didnt have a governor, and we used to practice low G manuevers, and we never used carb heat !! Of course, that was when the HP was the cool ride !

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My first 20 or so hours - I wasn't informed much about the governor and we didn't use it in the R22 until after then, which was a nice surpirse.

 

I had had 3 motorcycles by that time and it wasn't a big deal really.

 

With a motorcycle - your brain never gets used to turning a throttle with your left hand which is good.

 

That said - the throttle turning direction or wrist twisting direction is opposite to apply power - but keeping everything smooth as you suggested- and it stays fine and becomes natural.

 

$0.02

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A little trick for the R22/R44......

 

Stick your thumb out to the right, then move it in the direction you want the needle to go on the RRPM gauge.

 

Besides that, gov off work is easy in the Robinsons, the correlator is great and keeps the RPM within 5% even on large power changes. You just have to watch it in turns and when coming out of ETL because of the left pedal app.

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Hey all,

 

I was curious about your first experiences with the GOV OFF in the R22. I was all worked up by some A&P buddies of mine that had time in the Brantly, Bell 47, Bell 206, and R22. They kept telling me my motorcycle experience was going to mess me up with the throttle. I found the correlation to be really good, as long as you moved the collective normally, very little throttle work seemed to be needed. I did find myself fixating on the rpm a lot more and my left hand was getting fatigued even though the throttle friction was holding just fine. The machine is new and had less than 100 hrs on it though.

 

 

 

Later

 

 

When I got my PPL and CPL we didn't have a governor........learning w/o a governor made me much more aware of RPM in general. You can do simulations now, but no solo flight with the gov off.

 

First time I flew with a governor.....I think I wept a bit!! :)

 

R91

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When I got my PPL and CPL we didn't have a governor........learning w/o a governor made me much more aware of RPM in general. You can do simulations now, but no solo flight with the gov off.

 

First time I flew with a governor.....I think I wept a bit!! :)

 

R91

 

Did you ever fly with the first generation of R22 governor--the one that moved the collective in addition to the throttle? It was a few thousand dollar option in the early 90s. That thing was wierd......I could never tell if the instructor or the governor was trying to override me on the collective. It lasted less than a year before the bulletin that said everyone had to put the second generation (throttle only) on all the R22s.

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Did you ever fly with the first generation of R22 governor--the one that moved the collective in addition to the throttle? It was a few thousand dollar option in the early 90s. That thing was wierd......I could never tell if the instructor or the governor was trying to override me on the collective. It lasted less than a year before the bulletin that said everyone had to put the second generation (throttle only) on all the R22s.

 

I asked the question at ground school tonight and we kicked around some thoughts but why don't all piston helicopters have governed throttles instead of correlated? Is it weight, price, response time?

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From years of riding bikes, I occasionally twist the throttle the wrong way while practicing manuevers, it was more common in the first 30 hours of training, but I still double check at the sticker on the collective to make sure I twist it the right way!

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I asked the question at ground school tonight and we kicked around some thoughts but why don't all piston helicopters have governed throttles instead of correlated? Is it weight, price, response time?

 

 

Brian- my vote is its money. Technology has been around for some time. Robinson did a nice job with his...but it costs a couple thous more..and your the pilot...its your job to keep the RPM correct...its not a fault of the bird if you let it drop..its "pilot error". so there's no reason for manufacturers to build it in. It would be a great option though..

 

and thats my .02

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Did you ever fly with the first generation of R22 governor--the one that moved the collective in addition to the throttle? It was a few thousand dollar option in the early 90s. That thing was wierd......I could never tell if the instructor or the governor was trying to override me on the collective. It lasted less than a year before the bulletin that said everyone had to put the second generation (throttle only) on all the R22s.

 

 

Delorean,

 

YES....I do remeber that! I use to ask my CFI the same thing...."Are you touching the controls?" I first flew the 22 HP, then the Alpha, etc. I actually liked the HP. Solo flight, you actually came up level in a hover....then they moved the battery!! :)

 

R91

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  • 15 years later...

Back in the late 80s our students only ever turned on the governor for nav trips, so they could have a short time with hand off the lever to fiddle with maps.

The governor is now mandatory to try to overcome stoopid people, but the limits of stoopiditiy keep expanding. There is no law against being stoopid.

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