Important and Urgent

[Sparks]

I am 16 years old and living in the UK. I want to live, work, train etc in canada but i cant just get on a plane and live there as you know.

 

The key to me learning to fly is Money. Without being arogant, i think i have the academic ability to study for the harder parts of a cpl, cfi etc and physical ability i have proven in the 3 times i have been flying in heli's and the 15+ times i have flown a cessena 177 (including take off + landing with full controls).

 

What i need to know is if money is the only thing holding me back then surely i would be best of getting a full time job and earning money. At 16 with the basic school results i got i can get a full time job in numerous different places, of course i wont be earning much but its still earning.

 

OR

 

Do this aeronautical engineering couse (bloody hard work mind you) and get a national diploma which will:

 

1. Get me into canada on the skilled workers visa

 

2. Get me a job in the aeronautical industry

 

3. Mean i cant earn money for 2 years

 

4. Mean that i am doing something that i dont really want to do

 

 

So thats the 2 options. I have been at college for a week now but i dont like it very much to be totally honest.

 

 

Also, if in 4 years i have £60,000 (uk pounds) and got a 2 year visa to train in canada, would i be able to apply to live there permantly if i was offered a job as a cfi or whatever.

 

 

 

 

So everyone, even if you dont know what to say just give me your thoughts or ideas. I would love to have this thread with comments from loads of people. That would really really help me.

 

 

Thank you for reading.

 

Richard.

[Guest pokey]

i for one am in no position to give a 16 year old ANY advice, much less a move from England to Canada. When i was 16? i was pretty much happy where i was. Why you want such a drastic change?

[Sparks]

i for one am in no position to give a 16 year old ANY advice, much less a move from England to Canada. When i was 16? i was pretty much happy where i was. Why you want such a drastic change?

I dont like this country and i cant fly here. Its as simple as that. I have spoken to pilots here and there is no jobs. Not a shortage, or just hard to find...there just isnt any. The training in this country is DOUBLE yes DOUBLE the cost compared to canada and the whether would make it a part time course.

 

After trained the few and far between helicopter schools would have no jobs for me as they have like 2 instructors that are permament (because they have no-where to move onto) etc. The sheer lack of helicopters in this country is an indication that this it not the place for a chopper pilot. Take London for example and guess how many helipads it has that are used for frequent flights by a company...1...thats right 1.

 

I need to go to canada but im stuck at the moment.

[rotor91]

I dont like this country and i cant fly here. Its as simple as that. I have spoken to pilots here and there is no jobs. Not a shortage, or just hard to find...there just isnt any. The training in this country is DOUBLE yes DOUBLE the cost compared to canada and the whether would make it a part time course.

 

After trained the few and far between helicopter schools would have no jobs for me as they have like 2 instructors that are permament (because they have no-where to move onto) etc. The sheer lack of helicopters in this country is an indication that this it not the place for a chopper pilot. Take London for example and guess how many helipads it has that are used for frequent flights by a company...1...thats right 1.

 

I need to go to canada but im stuck at the moment.

 

Sparks,

 

Go to school, get your degree, THEN.....look into flying! The degree will ONLY help you in the long run! Some ATP jobs require a BS/BA....some do, but not all. Stay in school, enjoy the experience, then look into flying. The experience you'll get in college, of living the college life, love, etc., will be priceless. Enjoy the ride!

 

My CFI didn't get start til he was 33......

 

Cheers-

R91

[Witch]

Just curious, might you have relatives in the Great White North? This way you might be able to live with them and go to flight school.

 

Juat a thought?

 

Later.

 

BTW, Where near London are you now?

[Sparks]

Sparks,

 

Go to school, get your degree, THEN.....look into flying! The degree will ONLY help you in the long run! Some ATP jobs require a BS/BA....some do, but not all. Stay in school, enjoy the experience, then look into flying. The experience you'll get in college, of living the college life, love, etc., will be priceless. Enjoy the ride!

 

My CFI didn't get start til he was 33......

 

Cheers-

R91

If i get my degree i will be 19..then will work for say 3/4 years so i would start maybe aged 23/24.

 

Just curious, might you have relatives in the Great White North? This way you might be able to live with them and go to flight school.

 

Juat a thought?

 

Later.

 

BTW, Where near London are you now?

I have no-one there unfortunatly So if i was to do flight school i wold need to rent accomadation.

 

I live in the Farnborough Airport flight path. Thats where the Farnborough Airshow i held every 2 years. Its about 25 miles west of London.

[Wesp]

First of all, you seem to be living in a different United Kingdom as I do. There are plenty of jobs, plenty of flight schools and a shortage of instructors. (And very good pay) So apparantly you have been talking to the wrong people. You wanting to leave the country is up to you of course, just don't motivate it wrongly.

 

You are still very, very young and I recommend get an education first. Basically you need a degree to get a Visa for most countries, pilot alone won't get you in.

 

By the way I've lived in several countries and the UK is NOT bad at all.

[Sparks]

First of all, you seem to be living in a different United Kingdom as I do. There are plenty of jobs, plenty of flight schools and a shortage of instructors. (And very good pay) So apparantly you have been talking to the wrong people. You wanting to leave the country is up to you of course, just don't motivate it wrongly.

 

You are still very, very young and I recommend get an education first. Basically you need a degree to get a Visa for most countries, pilot alone won't get you in.

 

By the way I've lived in several countries and the UK is NOT bad at all.

 

Where do you live/have experience of people talking of jobs etc. Where i am speaking to people at Shrobden and Blackbushe airports and subsequent helicopter schools they are telling me the only jobs are on the rigs up north and the instrtuctors are paid piss.

 

Maybe i am talking to the wrong people here. Did you train in uk? Work here? etc

[Wesp]

I live and work in the South. Obviously there is no work for low-time pilots, apart from instructors. Instructors how ever get decent pay compared to the US at least. Generally pay in Europe is better than Canada/US, Canada also has the disadvantage of very high tax rates.

[troops23]

True about the tax rates Wesp. Plus Sparks, you can't get your Canadian commercial until your 18. And your class 4 instructor rating (CFI in Canada is Chief Flight Instructor) until you have a minimum 250 hours PIC. And most flight schools won't look at hiring you until you have at the very lest 500 hours, and that's being desperate. Canadian Helicopters, where I did my training, has a 1,000 hour minimum on their instructors. That's a crap load of flying, and an even larger load of cash. Plus, turbine time is key in the Great White North, and between a grand and $1,200 per hour for either a JetRanger or AStar, you better have deep pockets.

[CBPo]

True about the tax rates Wesp. Plus Sparks, you can't get your Canadian commercial until your 18. And your class 4 instructor rating (CFI in Canada is Chief Flight Instructor) until you have a minimum 250 hours PIC. And most flight schools won't look at hiring you until you have at the very lest 500 hours, and that's being desperate. Canadian Helicopters, where I did my training, has a 1,000 hour minimum on their instructors. That's a crap load of flying, and an even larger load of cash. Plus, turbine time is key in the Great White North, and between a grand and $1,200 per hour for either a JetRanger or AStar, you better have deep pockets.

 

 

Canadian military any option?

[Sparks]

Ok guys. Looks like college is going to be the best option here. And you are right... i am young...very young to be thinking about life changes choices such as immigrating right now. I will give it a couple of years and re-evaluate.

 

I have been at college for a week now and i love it. Doing aeronautical engineering and so stuff like vector quantites of coplaner forces etc all very interesting and challeging stuff.

 

Im off to play guitar...got a gig coming up soon so i need to reherse

 

Bye for now

[troops23]

Canadian military any option?

 

 

You need to be a Canadian citizen to join. To be a pilot, you need to be an officer. To be an officer, you need a degree. Provided you make it past the ridiculusly (sp?) difficult selection process, you enter basic flight. IF you pass that, you might be put into Rotory training. It depends on the requirements of the Forces.