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[marrty41]

I am currently training in a 22 with 70 hrs left before its 2200 overhaul also I train in an older 22 with 600 since its overhaul depending which is available.I feel more at ease in the older model or am I being stupid,has anybody else ever experienced this?

[dlo]

why do you feel better in one then the other, is one heavier, does one have more power, do you sit on the same side in both helis, are they both beta 1's or 2's. do they both have the same instraments and power. just wondering, so we can better understand you. some people will always feel more comfortable in the heli they very first started their training in, or took their very first discovery flight in, i have heard this before. but most of the time, pilots like the r 22 that has the most power and is the lightest.

[Witch]

Sometimes pilots prefer one aircraft over another. If you feel better in the helo with the new engine and overhaul, then great. Don't sweat it.

 

Whin I flew airplanes, I prefered one plane over the other becaus the other one always felt like it was underpowered. I had to make shallower climbs to stay at Vy.

 

Now I prefer one helo over the other because the stick seems to shake a little more and I don't have the hook release button to hook my finger over.

 

If you feel better in one over the other, don't let it bother you and just fly.

 

Later

[marrty41]

Sometimes pilots prefer one aircraft over another. If you feel better in the helo with the new engine and overhaul, then great. Don't sweat it.

 

Whin I flew airplanes, I prefered one plane over the other becaus the other one always felt like it was underpowered. I had to make shallower climbs to stay at Vy.

 

Now I prefer one helo over the other because the stick seems to shake a little more and I don't have the hook release button to hook my finger over.

 

If you feel better in one over the other, don't let it bother you and just fly.

 

Later

its not the difference in the aircraft. to tell you the truth I cant tell any difference due to limited flying experience, its the fact that one has been overhauled and the other one is soon due for overhaul, when they say"overhaul" what does this involve exactly and does it mean the machine is good for another 2200hrs

[Flyfisherman79]

its not the difference in the aircraft. to tell you the truth I cant tell any difference due to limited flying experience, its the fact that one has been overhauled and the other one is soon due for overhaul, when they say"overhaul" what does this involve exactly and does it mean the machine is good for another 2200hrs

 

 

Marty, if you dont mind me asking, are feeling hesitant with the A/C that is coming up on the overhaul that it may quit on you? Or have you found a certain confidence within one a/c vs. the other?

 

I am still working on my private, but the day I finally found the hover button I thought it was maybe the a/c. I had a new level of confidence in that machine vs. any of the others. That has since gone away and they all fly the same, generally (but some do have quirks). If you are feeling hesitant becuase the soon to be overhauled a/c maybe increasing the potential of it killing you.....I am not sure what to tell you. A brand new ship with 3 hours will kill you just as fast as a machine with 5 overhauls under its belt. If that is your fear, you may have a long struggle ahead of you. Personally, I have just accepted the fact that helicopters kill people, its only matter of time until I have to do a silent auto without the option of a power recovery, and that if I botch it, I am going to become worm food. Of course, I dont stew on that fact, but it is a reality. Easier to face it and accept the inherent risk, or stay on the ground. Just my 2 pennies.

[marrty41]

Marty, if you dont mind me asking, are feeling hesitant with the A/C that is coming up on the overhaul that it may quit on you? Or have you found a certain confidence within one a/c vs. the other?

 

I am still working on my private, but the day I finally found the hover button I thought it was maybe the a/c. I had a new level of confidence in that machine vs. any of the others. That has since gone away and they all fly the same, generally (but some do have quirks). If you are feeling hesitant becuase the soon to be overhauled a/c maybe increasing the potential of it killing you.....I am not sure what to tell you. A brand new ship with 3 hours will kill you just as fast as a machine with 5 overhauls under its belt. If that is your fear, you may have a long struggle ahead of you. Personally, I have just accepted the fact that helicopters kill people, its only matter of time until I have to do a silent auto without the option of a power recovery, and that if I botch it, I am going to become worm food. Of course, I dont stew on that fact, but it is a reality. Easier to face it and accept the inherent risk, or stay on the ground. Just my 2 pennies.

It is the feeling that the a/c due the overhaul might give up ,but this is because I still dont know enough about it to instill confidence in the machine. I have an engineering background and am learning all the time and it is early days (7 hours). the more I fly this thing the better it gets .But I just keep looking at the bloody clock.

[Witch]

Well, if it's the TBO you're worried about, remember this; These machines are well maintained to better standards than half of the cars on the road. These engines are designed for reliability and redundancy-twin mags. The components are built to withstand severe punishment. The materials are made to last a long time.

 

That said, these machines are overhauled at a certain time that is way before the likelyhood of a failure. Say the TBO is 2000 hours. Most of the components would still last to maybe 4000 hours. The trick here is to replace parts BEFORE they fail, and that's what they do in the overhaul. The birds are safe. Caveat: Of course some components do fail before their TBO. The failure rate is low. Take into consideration the amount of machines that fly everyday, and the amount of component failures that cause crashes, and you'll see it's almost zero.

 

If you prefer the newer machine, then have at it. Remember though, their may be a damaged component on it waiting to fail. When will it fail? Unknown.

 

Enough risk management for now.

 

Later

[AndrewT]

I used to have a preference over aircraft, but that was just because I got used to flying one over the others. Once I realized the different "quarks"associated with each, I got more used to flying the others because you know whats going to be different and what to expect as a result.

 

By the way, I like an older 22 also, but its going in for its overhaul soon, so she'll come back different and I'll have to get used to it.