67november Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 (edited) effective later this month you'll need a passport to cross the borders by air, land and sea travel not needed till Jan. '08 For as long as we can remember, the only documentation needed by a U.S. citizen returning home from Canada, Mexico, the Bahamas or certain other locations by air was a driver's license and a birth certificate. No more. Beginning Jan. 23, 2007, all U.S. citizens -- including children -- need a current passport, even if you're arriving via private aircraft. That's according to a federal law enacted in 2004, as implemented by the departments of State and Homeland Security’s Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative. Some exclusions do apply, and individuals traveling between the mainland and U.S. territories are exempt. Of course, all of this -- including new passports with embedded chips -- are part of the nation's continuing anti-terrorism efforts. The new requirement's deadline was announced in November, and apparently will be implemented despite attempts by various organizations, including AOPA, to seek a delay. For what it's worth, as early as Jan. 1, 2008, all U.S. citizens traveling by land or sea may also need a passport instead of the customary documents. Citizens obtaining a new passport may or may not receive one of the new documents with an embedded chip. Rollout of the new passport began last year in some locations but, for the time being, not all new passports will contain the chip. Edited January 3, 2007 by 67november Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joker Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 (edited) Ha! Welcome to the "rest-of-the-world" America! From the comments, the Economist has a subscriber-only article that states 34% of Americans over the age of 18 own passports, ... By comparison, it says 41% of Canadians over 18 have passports. (10 Sep 2005) Source: http://www.gyford.com/phil/writing/2003/01...any_america.php Now America seems to have taken that 'massive' step, it only leaves us to get them to step out of the dark ages and change to Metric (SI) units rather than imperial. Joker (Sorry, couldn't resist the dig!) 1959 English units are defined in terms of metric units 1970 Practically all the world has adopted the Metric System - the US, Liberia and Burma remain the only countries still using the English Imperial units 1975 Metric Conversion Act (Public Law 94-168) passed by Congress 2005 The US still have no definitve plan in sight for an adoption of the Metric System Edited January 3, 2007 by joker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
67november Posted January 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 Ha! Welcome to the "rest-of-the-world" America! From the comments, the Economist has a subscriber-only article that states 34% of Americans over the age of 18 own passports, ... By comparison, it says 41% of Canadians over 18 have passports. (10 Sep 2005) Source: http://www.gyford.com/phil/writing/2003/01...any_america.php Now America seems to have taken that 'massive' step, it only leaves us to get them to step out of the dark ages and change to Metric (SI) units rather than imperial. Joker (Sorry, couldn't resist the dig!) 1959 English units are defined in terms of metric units 1970 Practically all the world has adopted the Metric System - the US, Liberia and Burma remain the only countries still using the English Imperial units 1975 Metric Conversion Act (Public Law 94-168) passed by Congress 2005 The US still have no definitve plan in sight for an adoption of the Metric System John and Jane Q Public, has no interest in converting to the metric system here in the US of A as we've been using the Imperial system so long that resistance to change has been enormase(sp?) the 1975 conversion Act went over like a fart in church, until the US government starts posting dual systems on things to start with ie mph & kph on speed limit signs and such it'll never happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jet trash Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 Ha! Welcome to the "rest-of-the-world" America! From the comments, the Economist has a subscriber-only article that states 34% of Americans over the age of 18 own passports, ... By comparison, it says 41% of Canadians over 18 have passports. (10 Sep 2005) Source: http://www.gyford.com/phil/writing/2003/01...any_america.php Now America seems to have taken that 'massive' step, it only leaves us to get them to step out of the dark ages and change to Metric (SI) units rather than imperial. Joker (Sorry, couldn't resist the dig!) 1959 English units are defined in terms of metric units 1970 Practically all the world has adopted the Metric System - the US, Liberia and Burma remain the only countries still using the English Imperial units 1975 Metric Conversion Act (Public Law 94-168) passed by Congress 2005 The US still have no definitve plan in sight for an adoption of the Metric System Spoken like a true socialist................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pogue Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 Now America seems to have taken that 'massive' step, it only leaves us to get them to step out of the dark ages and change to Metric (SI) units rather than imperial. Joker I guess I'm ambidexterous... I'm perfectly comfortable with knots and miles, but all my targeting calculations are metric... :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMWK Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 1776.....Declared independence from the Brits, but like the English Units anyhow . WWII.....saved the world's a$$. America--- "Canada, can ya help any here?" Canada------ "errrrrrr, no, sorry, we're wimps, but we'll be your friend so you don't kick our a$$." Present day..... Americans don't care for socialism. And we just tolerate the Brits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volition Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 (edited) Eeeeeeee!! Lets go to Irak and get all those bombs of mass destruction!!! I guess you must be happy that sadam got executed!! By the way, over 3000 americans dead!! I guess it paid of when Sadam got executed? Edited January 3, 2007 by volition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMWK Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 By the way, no other country on earth likes you either. Way to go America!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pokey Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 effective later this month you'll need a passport to cross the borders by air, land and sea travel not needed till Jan. '08 son of a ! i HATE gittin' my picture took ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Coaster Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 WWII.....saved the world's a$$. After joining that war what... 2 years after it started? And yes the US did indeed help in a big way, but didn't win it single-handed by any means. America--- "Canada, can ya help any here?" Canada------ "errrrrrr, no, sorry, we're wimps, but we'll be your friend so you don't kick our a$$." That's funny. I'll pass it along to my buddy serving in Afghanistan right now and see if he laughs too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMWK Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 Aimed at Joker, and I know he can take a joke. Lighten up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joker Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 OK! Seeing as I started this one (said with a wry grin), I'll try to quench the embers before we have us a good 'ole smoke-out. Of course my initial post was in jest! And, yes KMWK your comments are taken as nothing but jest back. To anyone, who got slightly riled (aggrieved), please read my posts again, then read yours. Talk of Sadam, winning wars, Afganistan etc..etc.. was not where this was meant to go! Those are sure issues to start a fight here. So, everybody kiss and make up! Welcome those other 64% of Americans who will be getting their passports, and who might come a-visiting! Happy New Year everyone! Joker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollthbns Posted January 4, 2007 Report Share Posted January 4, 2007 So, does this mean our freinds from south of the border will have to carry passports when they risk life and limb to come take advantage of.. I mean... smply work in the US and A? That would be cool. The next time I go to Mexico to fish, I am going to ask the guy who gives out the tourist cards. He will love that! I better make sure I ask in spanish though, if I ask in english he might go soup nazi on me. "No tourist card for you!" I think that is why I now fish in US waters. The Gulf of Mexico off of Louisiana makes the actual Mexico look like a booger! (Fishing wise) Although I will miss Capitan Jesus, looked EXACTLY like the frito bandito. The only thing he was missing was the bandolier. That guy could fish! And he could do it with anything. He forgot his knife one day, so he fashioned one out of an empty beer can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troops23 Posted January 4, 2007 Report Share Posted January 4, 2007 Don't forget, us Canadians will need a passport when flying into the US. Land and sea will come into effect in '08. You're not the only ones who need passports now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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