TheLorax Posted March 22, 2007 Report Share Posted March 22, 2007 (edited) I've used an aviation headset once and that was during my Demo-flight. I had the old-school standard issue green one. (dont remember what it's called). the pilot at the time had his own black bose headset. ive been looking on ebay and there are bose headsets with batteries, and bose headsets without batteries. also, the price is around 1,000 dollars. are these headsets worth the big bucks? obviously a headset that doesnt require batteries is more desirable. but is the quality of the sound and also the noise reduction that much of a difference? perhaps these are just cool toys... kind of like Rayban aviator sunglasses? EDIT!my apologies, i just found a wealth of information in the Helmet thread. who woulda thunk it? sorry.. Edited March 22, 2007 by TheLorax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gft Posted March 23, 2007 Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 I use panel powered bose Xs in my rotorcraft and battery powered Xs in my fixed wing. Personaly I think they're the best headset available and worth every penny. Good light fit with excellent noise reduction. Wether or not they're worth the bucks is up to each individual.Also depends on how long of flights you make. If you're spendinga long day with a stick in your hand a good headset can reduce fatigue. gft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klmmarine Posted March 23, 2007 Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 I have a Bose, and I love the sound quality and noise reduction. I wish they were built a little more sturdy. For some reason the hot mike doesn't work, in the R22 that I train on, with any ENC/ANC headset but works fine in PTT. I would recommend trying the Bose (they have a 30 day return policy). I think that a battery option would make your headset more portable, or usable in more aircraft. Aren't the panel powered versions hardwired? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarab Posted March 23, 2007 Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 There is a thread about the R22 intercom. They work great with matched headsets (both the same brand and model) as soon as you try to mix and match chances are they will not play nice with each other. PTT is a reliable plan b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klmmarine Posted March 23, 2007 Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 There is a thread about the R22 intercom. They work great with matched headsets (both the same brand and model) as soon as you try to mix and match chances are they will not play nice with each other. PTT is a reliable plan b That could be it, my instructor has a DC ENC/ANC and he can't get his to work either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhotoFlyer Posted March 23, 2007 Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 I have been flying with a Bose for nearly 3 years now. I won't fly with anything else. On the rare occasion when I have been forced to use a DC, I always end up stumbling out of the helicopter exhausted and with a headache after only an hour of flying. Then I swear to myself I will never, ever, ever forget my headset at home again. Unless you plan on purchasing your own aircraft and only flying that aircraft, you should get a battery powered headset. That goes for ANY headset that needs electricity to work. Bose + Light, Awesome acoustics, Radio clarity is incredible,doesn't clamp head like a pair of vice grips, comfortable ear cups in hot/cold, mic is very sensitive, I could go on but it's time for bed. Bose - If the batteries die, then the headset has practically no passive noise reduction. Simple solution: keep two AA in your pocket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southernweyr Posted March 23, 2007 Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 I have tried Bose, Telex 50D, and Lightspeed 30-3G. I ended up buying the Telex 50D. When my students show up with their bose headsets I let them try mine so they can see how much more noise cancelation the Telex has. They are also very comfortable and have adjustable headset so it doesn't clamp to tight. Also, if you don't want to have to be digging in your pocket and trying to put new batteries in your headset while you are flying you don't have to worry about it. The 50D has over 30 dB of passive noise reduction. I aslo think the telex is more comfortable than the Bose even though it's a little heavier. After trying the Telex and the Bose side by side numerous times, I am still very happy that I spent half the money for a better all around headset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLorax Posted March 23, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 very interesting, quite a variety of opinions. seeing as the bose without batteries needs to be hardwired i would definitely want the more practical, versatile version with the batteries. i still want to see and compare all of these headsets for myself. are there any rotorcraft/aviation gear specific online webstores that anyone likes to use to buy or browse? -TheLorax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franky17 Posted March 23, 2007 Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 I went to the heli expo the other week, and I was at one of the booths with the helmets, you know getting feel for them, the gentelman at the booth was telling me that the millatary found that the noise reducation slowly but surley causes the pilot to loose hearing? true? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
as350b3 Posted March 23, 2007 Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 After many years of using DC and Telex, I bought a Bose X on ebay for about $550. It took a while to find a set at that price, but I would say it's even worth the more frequently encountered $750 on ebay.The Bose is significantly quieter. I wouldn't trade it for anything else (that is not ANC - never tried Telex's ANC headset). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhotoFlyer Posted March 23, 2007 Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 I went to the heli expo the other week, and I was at one of the booths with the helmets, you know getting feel for them, the gentelman at the booth was telling me that the millatary found that the noise reducation slowly but surley causes the pilot to loose hearing? true? I'd want to see the study before I believe that. It just sounds like marketing to get you to but a helmet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franky17 Posted March 23, 2007 Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 I'd want to see the study before I believe that. It just sounds like marketing to get you to but a helmet. well they offered "noise cancelling (sp?)" with the helmet but did not recommend it because of the "hearing loss" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkdriver Posted March 23, 2007 Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 I giggle everytime I see the green light come on. BOSE headsets rock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollthbns Posted March 23, 2007 Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 So far I have zero complaints. Bose. Sex for your ears. Dont forget spare batteries though. Otherwise its a very expensive set of ear muffs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gft Posted March 24, 2007 Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 I went to the heli expo the other week, and I was at one of the booths with the helmets, you know getting feel for them, the gentelman at the booth was telling me that the millatary found that the noise reducation slowly but surley causes the pilot to loose hearing? true? HUH! What'd he say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldy Posted March 24, 2007 Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 (edited) HUH! What'd he say? Surley- "As in a big fat helicopter pilot with half chewed cigar hanging from his mouth and a dirty T shirt covered with breakfast...not quite covering his entire belly" I think that was in Websters... we're ribbing ya...Franky, use a spellchecker next time ! Edited March 25, 2007 by Goldy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gft Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 Surley- "As in a big fat helicopter pilot with half chewed cigar hanging from his mouth and a dirty T shirt covered with breakfast...not quite covering his entire belly" I think that was in Websters... gft- we're ribbing ya...use a spellchecker next time ! duh-Can't hear ya-been wearing them boses to long-------- gft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADRidge Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 I tried out a set of Bose friday night on a late discovery flight with Anything's Possible Aviation. I've only been in a helicopter three times so far, but for 2/3 of my flight time, I've used the standard fare DC headsets. While the DC's are adequate, the Bose headsets were absolutely great. I can honestly say that I've never predicted an instance where I'd actually get excited about headphones, but then again you never know what will happen I suppose. I just wish they were a bit cheaper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gft Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 I just wish they were a bit cheaper. Go to e-bay motors. Under parts click on Aviation-Then type bose in search bar.You can save a few bucks on used and sometimesnew Bose X headsets.Do a little research on Bose website first.Make sure you know what your'e buying. gft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottie Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 Any military users have experience with Bose? I found out the hard way that the military uses different connectors for our headsets than civilian aircraft. Are all civilian planes and helicopters using the same 2 plug connector? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollthbns Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 Any military users have experience with Bose? I found out the hard way that the military uses different connectors for our headsets than civilian aircraft. Are all civilian planes and helicopters using the same 2 plug connector? Fixed wing uses a 2 plug, the helicopters take a single. There are adapters available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldy Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 Any military users have experience with Bose? I found out the hard way that the military uses different connectors for our headsets than civilian aircraft. Are all civilian planes and helicopters using the same 2 plug connector? Scottie- Military aircraft often have different connectors because the impedance of the microphones is different than GA aircraft. You know the military..nothing can be the same as us civilians.Most fixed wing uses the 2 plug connector..one for headset and the other for microphone. Most newer helicopters use a single "stubbie" connector which is pretty short. You can get all sorts of adapters as needed, but that only changes the connection method...not the impedance...so most GA stuff might have issues with military radios. BTW- The old Bell 47 helicopter uses the FW style 2 plug connector- so you just never know. Thanks for kicking a** in AFG . Goldy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gomer Pylot Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 The military uses the same plugs, but that's where it ends. Military and civilian avionics have very different impedance, and will not work together. You'll have to replace the electronics in your military headset or helmet for it to work in a civilian helicopter. Civilian airplanes use entirely different connectors, but helicopters are the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pikes Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 I went to the heli expo the other week, and I was at one of the booths with the helmets, you know getting feel for them, the gentelman at the booth was telling me that the millatary found that the noise reducation slowly but surley causes the pilot to loose hearing? true?Hi, franky17.I have to apologise in advance for my english.. it's not my everyday language.. First time posting, here we go The thing with "causes the pilot to loose hearing..", I have to agree with the 'gentelman' on that.I've read an article on this kinda stuff.The earphones that electronically processes the wanted and the unwanted sounds, do not filter EVERYTHING. The earphones listen to the louder bangs and other irritating sounds that causes potential eardamage, and partly negates the sounds.Imagine that the sounds are "positively charged".The phones 'zeros' the sound, with sending a "negatively charged" correction signal. But heres the catch: both "negatively and positively charged" signal still goes in to your ear. The sound wave is still there, but your ear just don't pick up any sounds in the wave, because the signal is corrected, and that, is what damages your hearing..Eventually, everything still goes in to your ear.. True or not? You figure it out.. -Pikes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLorax Posted March 25, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 well. so far im leaning towards bose or telex. i still need to try on both pairs.. ill give this decision some time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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