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I know there was a thread not too long ago about this topic. I cant seem to find it with the search feature? maybe i am slow in some way...

Anyhow-my question is: Is it really beneficial to complete your commercial before your instrument? Instead of going th typical Private, instrument, commericial, CFI? I am currently going to school for the latter, and I am rethinking my decision.

And if that is the better way to go, how do I switch schools and what kind of school do I go to? Is there any of those schools in Arizona?

Thanks in advance and sorry for posting a new thread about somthing that was just discussed.

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I know there was a thread not too long ago about this topic. I cant seem to find it with the search feature? maybe i am slow in some way...

Anyhow-my question is: Is it really beneficial to complete your commercial before your instrument? Instead of going th typical Private, instrument, commericial, CFI? I am currently going to school for the latter, and I am rethinking my decision.

And if that is the better way to go, how do I switch schools and what kind of school do I go to? Is there any of those schools in Arizona?

Thanks in advance and sorry for posting a new thread about somthing that was just discussed.

 

 

Try this one http://helicopterforum.verticalreference.com/helicopterfor...ost&p=42883

 

Apology accepted !!

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After you get your private say it takes 60hrs you still will need 90hrs to get your commercial. If you don't do instrument in between you will just be flying 90hrs of straight and level or cross-country. So it is a wise chose to be training during the 90hr build time that's why most all schools do it that way.

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I agree with FULL TOUCH DOWN, however I did my commercial, cfi and it seemed to work because you are studying the same material. Then I did my instrument and CFII with same day checkrides. If you can teach instruments while flying them then you certainly qualify for your instrument ticket. If you read the regs, you have to have 200 hours for a R22 job anyways, so it comes out to be a wash. If you read the job postings you generally have to have 300 hours for insurance purposes.

 

If you are looking for a school in Phoenix there are quite a few. I believe the school that I work with would be a good option. We are located at Stellar Airpark (P19) on the south side of Phoenix. PM me if you want more information.

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I am still confused. I am new to this helicopter business. If I ask for advice from any schools, they just tell me what makes them the most money.

Is it really bettr to get your commercial before your instrument? Then go get a job and get the add-on later?

How would I go about this considering the fact I am already enrolled in a school that goes through CFII and doesn't offer the option of doing commercial before instrument?

If I do somehow go get my commercial before my instrument, I could get a job as a co-pilot and get turbine time instead of instructing?

And where in Arizona can I do this? Or am I gonna have to move out of state.

I know there is a lot of questions. They may seem kinda like they deserve a 'duh' answer. So thanks for any replies. you guys are great ;)

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I'm having a hard time understanding why you dont want to do your instrument before your commercial so badly. It should only take a little over a month if you're full time, and its going to cost you more to do it later. (see FTD's remarks)

If you dont want to do your instrument because you have no desire to ever fly actual IMC in a helicopter it's OK. Sure it will limit you somewhat but plenty of instructors only teach VFR anyways because of the cost of an IR bird, me included.

As for the job with just a commercial ticket I hope you dont mind being a ramp rat/gopher/ditch digger/truck driver(get you hazmat CDL) and have some good connections or know where to make them. Those are few and far between unless you go to canada (if you're a US citizen forget about that. their govt hates americans)

Theres a reason why most everybody goes the CFI route: its what most everybody does.

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<<<If I do somehow go get my commercial before my instrument, I could get a job as a co-pilot and get turbine time instead of instructing?>>>

 

Unfortunately copilot jobs are few and far between in helicopters. Any SIC job in the corporate world or the Gulf of Mexico requires an instrument rating or an ATP.

Other than those two, you'd have to fly logging to be an SIC. Search for threads about logging here to see what the job is like. Seems to be just about one of the worst pilot jobs in the industry - many last only a few weeks, some only last a few hours! Very tough conditions with excessive vibration and tendency for motion sickness for the SIC.

It's really too bad that we don't have the same opportunities as the fixed wing side - over there one gets to observe and learn from numerous PIC's as you work your way up into larger and more complex aircraft.

Just my 2 cents. Kevin

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