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Any former military pilots, or anybody for that matter, know if there is an industry standard on how employers will allow you to report "PIC" time on your resume? The reason I ask is I'm hearing that not only can I report the time I logged in the military as Aircraft Commander (signing for the aircraft) as PIC, but I can also log "First Pilot" time as PIC time on those flights when I didn't sign for the aircraft. I also have heard that you can't report "First Pilot" time (time at the controls) as PIC. Don't know if it depends on employer preference. If I'm interpreting the FARs correctly I can log that time as"the sole manipulator of the controls" (First Pilot) as PIC.

 

 

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Any former military pilots, or anybody for that matter, know if there is an industry standard on how employers will allow you to report "PIC" time on your resume? The reason I ask is I'm hearing that not only can I report the time I logged in the military as Aircraft Commander (signing for the aircraft) as PIC, but I can also log "First Pilot" time as PIC time on those flights when I didn't sign for the aircraft. I also have heard that you can't report "First Pilot" time (time at the controls) as PIC. Don't know if it depends on employer preference. If I'm interpreting the FARs correctly I can log that time as"the sole manipulator of the controls" (First Pilot) as PIC.

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Arcman, What your talking about is FAR part 1 vs FAR part 61 PIC time. Most employers will look at your 759 (if army) and get the numbers there. Some employers only want pic when you signed for the aircraft.

 

Google 'APTAP' and do a search there. Lots of advice there on this topic

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What they're looking for is P time, which is any time you are manipulating the controls. PIC and P time are not the same, but can, in practicality, be the same. You can report PIC time as any time you are designated as the PIC of an aircraft for which two pilots are required by the type certificate or the regulations under which the aircraft is operated. You can also log all time you are manipulating the controls, whether or not you are the PIC. As BillyBob said, just take the P time from your forms and use that.

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Arcman, What your talking about is FAR part 1 vs FAR part 61 PIC time. Most employers will look at your 759 (if army) and get the numbers there. Some employers only want pic when you signed for the aircraft.

 

Google 'APTAP' and do a search there. Lots of advice there on this topic

 

 

Thanks BillyBob

 

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What they're looking for is P time, which is any time you are manipulating the controls. PIC and P time are not the same, but can, in practicality, be the same. You can report PIC time as any time you are designated as the PIC of an aircraft for which two pilots are required by the type certificate or the regulations under which the aircraft is operated. You can also log all time you are manipulating the controls, whether or not you are the PIC. As BillyBob said, just take the P time from your forms and use that.

 

 

Thanks Gomer Pylot.

 

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