Heli-Ops Posted August 1, 2003 Report Share Posted August 1, 2003 How about our new Kmax members give us some feedback on what the Kmax is like to fly, work with, or work on. Its such a unique machine that feedback would be great. There are only 26 of them out there so lets hear from the elite crews. Heli Ops :devil: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Leggo Posted August 1, 2003 Report Share Posted August 1, 2003 Never mind that, what's it like to crash one! According to the NTSB website, since January 1998, 7 Kmaxes have crashed in the US. The FAA website shows 23 registered, including 4 that crashed. I imagine the other 3 were destroyed. So, in about five and a half years, 7 out of 26 have crashed, over a quarter of the fleet. During the same period, 92 R22's crashed. There are now 1038 R22's registered, so that's under 9% of the fleet. And that for a helicopter constantly reviled by self-proclaimed high-time experts as "a death trap", "a nasty little toy" etc., etc. So, what the #$%& is going on with these Kmaxes? Is it design deficiencies, or are they being flogged to death? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Leggo Posted August 7, 2003 Report Share Posted August 7, 2003 Correction: 8 out of 23. When making my previous post I wasn't aware of the fatal accident of July 28th. Randy Harmon RIP. Some regular posters on this board knew Randy personally. I didn't, but if my the harsh tone of my earlier post offended his memory, my sincere apologies. However, I still stand behind the gist of that post. From the preliminary NTSB report it looks like mechanical trouble again. Is this machine designed sturdily enough for the hard use they're being put to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heli-Ops Posted August 7, 2003 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2003 Leggo - First off Randy was a good friend of mine and no offence is taken by the post. Secondly nothing would have saved the aircraft after what happened. Cant explain any more until the report comes out but lets just say that the situation was completely out of Randys hands. I know that some of the Kmax tech reps will probably reply to your posts. Heli Ops Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Posted August 24, 2003 Report Share Posted August 24, 2003 I just had a look at the HAI preliminary accident reports and guess what ?? 79 accidents, 16 on R 22 and 5 on R 44. I think we should not focus ourselves on the accident rate but try to be realist and share the informations in order to be safer. I am too young on the Max to say something now, but I like the machine and it is a very good logging tool.Thanks for the forum, I think it will be helpful as more pilots will enter and discuss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIWIMIKE Posted September 4, 2003 Report Share Posted September 4, 2003 THREE WERE DYNAMIC ROLLOVERS[TWO WERE AT KAMAN ]ONE WAS INADVERTANT SHUT OFF OF FUEL SWITCH.TWO WERE CLUTCH FAILURE .ONE WAS FUEL CONTROL FAILURE.THE LAST ONE IS STILL BEING INVESTIGATED.WHEN YOU CONSIDER THE TYPE OF WORK WE ARE USING THEM FOR THE RATE IS NOT BAD.TAKE A LOOK AT HOW MANY HUEYS AND SIXTY ONS HAVE HAD MISHAPS IN THE SAME TIME FRAME. ''CHEERS'' . :cool: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tim Posted September 12, 2003 Report Share Posted September 12, 2003 Of the crashes, 4 were from pilot error. Also 130,000+ flight hours in that time. That’s 16000 hours per accident including pilot error. 32000 not including those. Put that up against anything out there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VRef Posted August 1, 2004 Report Share Posted August 1, 2004 Leggo, Your R22's don't haul 6000 lbs around at 8000' doing 2 minute turns on a 250' line for 8 to 10 hours a day... ...apples to apples there amigo... :: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flingwing206 Posted August 1, 2004 Report Share Posted August 1, 2004 Safety records to the side for a moment - I've got a real flying question about the KMax. Given the aerodynamics and physics of how yaw control is effected in this helicopter, what happens pedal-wise in autorotation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Eliassen Posted August 10, 2004 Report Share Posted August 10, 2004 Leggo, Your R22's don't haul 6000 lbs around at 8000' doing 2 minute turns on a 250' line for 8 to 10 hours a day... ...apples to apples there amigo... ::Kmax can't haul two people. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VRef Posted September 14, 2004 Report Share Posted September 14, 2004 No, they can haul four people...you just have to be brave enough to strap it on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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