Chinook

[BlackLotusUP]

It (the CH-47) got a 3/10 (or damn near) on fear factor what a crock of $h17 they fail to mention what the effect of 40ish fully armed troops pouring out of the back of the aircraft does to an enemies morale. This show was great I love all the top 10 shows but the rating system is so flawed. It's really just a popularity contest. Check it out if you get a chance, but i stand by my statement of its just a popularity contest, the fact that the apache beat out the UH-1 is laughable.

[brushfire21]

I would agree with you that the rating systems may be flawed, but its still fun to see the aircraft!

[Optigirl]

I love the fact that the 47 can out run most rotors out !

[lockedcj7]

As a 93B, I got a chance to see a Chinook flying NOE once. He was unloaded and flying balls-to-the-wall through a canyon. We tried to hang with him for a while (in an OH-58C) but we didn't have a chance!

[Optigirl]

I was out on the tarmac when a 47 took off, I looked over at my Dad (all grins) and it lifted off and was out of sight in seconds flat. I remember how big this bird was and thinking How in god's green earth can something bigger than a greyhound bus move so fast. I remember the sight of the blades and the sounds it made as the 47 got to full power. I bet serving on a flight line all day around Av8's and helicopters never gets boring !

 

Can a CH-47 land on Aircraft carriers ? or are they to big.

 

BTW didn't the CH-46 start the gun ship movement ?

I was watching something about AC-130's and I seen an old CH-46 with 3 20mm, and a 80mm gun sticking out the left side.

 

I would use correct military terms for "leftside" but don't remember all that fancy military jargon !

 

I do remember what "O" stands for in 0800 military time, O come on 5 more minutes, right!

 

~LD

[Pogue]

Can a CH-47 land on Aircraft carriers ? or are they to big.

An aircraft carrier is pretty big... They use CH-46's a lot for vertical replentishment to carriers, and I've seen RH-53's which are also pretty big operate off the Midway. The Navy doesn't have many 47's if they have any at all any more. (It's been a long time since I played in that club...) The Marines use their CH-46's off of LPH's which are basically WWII type aircraft carriers.

[FLHooker]

Optigirl, Yes, select units in the Army do practice landing on carriers, rare... but it does happen. (I.E. 160th SOAR)

 

As for the 'gunship' movement... I don't know of any 46's doing that, but back in Vietnam, they armed 4 CH-47's with rocket pods as well as machine guns. They were called Guns-A-Go-Go.

 

Pogue, The Navy has CH-46's, not 47's... which is a smaller version of the 47's.

 

 

Good to see the 47 getting some love!!

 

CHAD

Edited September 23, 2007 by FLHooker

[Pogue]

Pogue, The Navy has CH-46's, not 47's... which is a smaller version of the 47's.

Good to see the 47 getting some love!!

Hi, Chad - Yeah, I know, but when I was stationed at NAS North Island in 1974 there was a detachment of 47's there. They may have been borrowed from someone else since there was a lot of that going around at the time. They were definitely not 46's.

[palmfish]

I remember during the 47 qual course, as a demonstration the the 47's power, my instructor asked me to pull in 85% torque while sitting on the runway. It still brings a smile to my face thinking about it - like a rocket, this machine shot vertically into the air at more than 3000 FPM.

 

For its size, it's also surprisingly responsive and maneuverable - but it'll never be mistaken for an OH-58. I am particularly reminded of its size every time I do confined area or pinnacle ops.

 

All in all, it's an amazing and unique bird - I feel lucky to have gotten the opportunity to fly it.

[FLHooker]

Pogue, gotcha. I didn't know that the Navy ever had them

 

palmfish, Have you gotten a chance to fly the 47 with the 714 engines? Here at Rucker, there are only about 4 A/C out there with the older 712 engines, the rest have the 714's... damn what a difference. Crank in all the power you want, no droop, thanks to the FADEC system.

 

One of my last flights in tactics (days), we were on the runway at Andalusia, AL getting ready to take off... my IP took the controls, nosed it over, pulled in 95% torque... DAMN, put me down into the seat, and we were at 100 knots quick, fast, and in a hurry.

 

 

 

CHAD

[palmfish]

Pogue, gotcha. I didn't know that the Navy ever had them

 

palmfish, Have you gotten a chance to fly the 47 with the 714 engines? Here at Rucker, there are only about 4 A/C out there with the older 712 engines, the rest have the 714's... damn what a difference. Crank in all the power you want, no droop, thanks to the FADEC system.

 

One of my last flights in tactics (days), we were on the runway at Andalusia, AL getting ready to take off... my IP took the controls, nosed it over, pulled in 95% torque... DAMN, put me down into the seat, and we were at 100 knots quick, fast, and in a hurry.

CHAD

 

They didn't have any 712's at EAATS, so I didn't fly a 712 until I got home from the transition course. When I did return to my unit, the 712 was foreign to me and so, although I did fly it a few times, I didn't bother learning it because we were in the process of converting our fleet over. Now that we are 714 pure, I'm glad I didn't waste any brain cells on the 712.

 

I'm sold on the FADEC / DECU. I hated the way the #1 and #2 engines never matched up - I never did get the hang of "watching the beep" during EP's - something like trying to fly a twin engine R22 with no governors.

Edited September 24, 2007 by palmfish

[Optigirl]

The Marines use their CH-46's off of LPH's which are basically WWII type aircraft carriers.

 

I was telling my Dad and mom about these LPH's He pointed me in a different direction, To a ship called an LHA.

LHA-1 Tarawa class.

 

After reading about them these little mini carrier, They sure pack a punch and do some strange things besides Air operations.

The ass end of this ship (Stern-gate) opens and floods a section called a well deck and then can on-load LCU's and LCAC's and off load troops and tanks (Amphibious-Tanks of some sort) Its a crazy ship !LHA-1

 

It states:

LHA-1 on deployment.

 

12 CH-46 Sea Knight helicopters (USMC)

6 AV-8B Harrier attack planes (USMC)

4 AH-1W SuperCobra attack helicopter

9 CH-53 Sea Stallion helicopters

4 UH-1N Huey helicopters

 

WOW this is like the altament Heliport at sea !

Sorry if I hijacked this thread...

Edited September 24, 2007 by Optigirl

[FLHooker]

Optigirl, you are all over it!

 

 

palmfish, good deal! My class was one of the first that didn't have to learn BOTH, which made me happy. Supposedly by next summer they are going to start teachin' the F model here at Rucker, you know how rumors are though.

 

 

 

 

CHAD

[palmfish]

Optigirl, you are all over it!

palmfish, good deal! My class was one of the first that didn't have to learn BOTH, which made me happy. Supposedly by next summer they are going to start teachin' the F model here at Rucker, you know how rumors are though.

CHAD

 

I'm happy to fly the 714. The closest I'll ever get to the F Model is pictures that you send me someday when you're a veteran CW2 or 3.

Edited September 25, 2007 by palmfish

[Kuma]

Optigirl-

 

The LHD is the newest ship in that category. The LHA replaced the LPH, the LHD is currently replacing the LHA.

 

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/lhd-1.htm

 

Kuma

[Optigirl]

Optigirl-

 

The LHD is the newest ship in that category. The LHA replaced the LPH, the LHD is currently replacing the LHA.

 

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/lhd-1.htm

 

Kuma

 

Thanks for the info, I watched a video of the US-Navy and a few other country's try to destroy USS Belleau Wood LHA-3

It just wouldn't sink, so much for a pair of good tomahawks !

 

In the end they had to call in EOD and blow up the ship.

 

Now when they sink ships of this size, They do strip the ship of like everything first as the pictures show a different story, but then again I dint know anything about navy ships.

 

The new replacements for the LHA's don't look much different.

 

Now I'm going to have to make another trip to the book store for yet another "Jane's Guide book to Warship " .

lol.

[FLHooker]

palmfish, HA! well... That'd be great, with only 1 problem. I am in the National Guard... My unit isn't slated to get the F model until 2020, which happens to the same year I will reach my 20. Hopefully it'll be faster than that, but... I can only hope.

 

 

CHAD