Need help/ Advice, Silverstate is going to ruin my life! What do i do?!!!!

[Signia]

Heres my story.

Approx feb 06 I enrolled in SSH after hearing the commercials etc etc. I'm an A&P mechanic and always wanted to fly. At the time i was 24. flying has been my dream since i was very young etc etc.

So I enrolled in The SSH program, Huge class, Very hard to get flight time, I did well in class and in flight, i got A's on all of my tests. Anyway about 7-8 months into the program I began having some medical problems including high blood pressure, chronic fatigue, IBS, anxiety etc etc, that require me to take certain medications now that affect alertness etc etc.

So at the time i had 26 hours of flight time and still do, So I informed SSH that i could no longer continue into the program due to my health conditions needing treatment etc etc.

So long story short, I have a $93K Loan balance now for 26 hours of R22 time and a ground school plus supplies. I heard the school may cut me a break cause medical reasons but i haven't been able to get ahold of them because of the holiday. Anyway my loan is an unsecured through AES with an outragious interest rate.

The stress is tearing me up, I'm only 26 and i'm looking at never being able to purchase a new vehicle, never owning a house or even renting an apartment, maybe they take my car away and garnish wages for all i know. I never had but the right intentions and I feel i have been taken advantage of and used, eaten alive for this place. I'm hoping SSH will reduce my balance or PRO rate it so that i may actually be able to live.

Also I heard that if you bankruptcy student loans do not go away but i'm not sure about these unsecured loans for vocational schools like these. I can't simply default as i'll end up with bad uncorrectable debt for the rest of my life unless i were to hit the powerball or something. I need help, any advice? anyone else dealing dealt with this?!

[Rogue]

no bankruptcy will not delete student loans and well... bankruptcy laws have changed also - might as well call it debt restructuring. my best guess would be to read the fine print on your contract... or hire a lawyer to do it for you.

[HeliMott]

Call a decent lawyer and jump in on the class action wagon....

[RotorRunner]

Signia,

 

Man, don't stress yourself so much. They can't ruin the rest of your life if you make smart decisions from now on. Do a Google search for "free debt counseling". You can find many people who will help if you get stuck paying back the full amount, but that is worst-case scenario. Find someone you can trust and ask for help. Ask your Pastor at Church for help or go talk to an older business owner in your area that you can trust. Most small business owners have had their back to the wall many times and they know people who can help. Don't spend much money with a lawyer unless it is one that has come highly recommended from a trusted friend or Pastor or small business owner that has finally become successful. NOBODY is successful without taking some risk. If you take risk, sometimes you will get burnt. Go talk to some elders in your community who have been burnt and figured out a way out. I wish you were here. I know people here that I could pick up the phone and get you on the path to recovery. I'm sure there is someone in your community that can get you on the right path. If I can help further PM me.

 

RotorRunner

[Signia]

Signia,

 

Man, don't stress yourself so much. They can't ruin the rest of your life if you make smart decisions from now on. Do a Google search for "free debt counseling". You can find many people who will help if you get stuck paying back the full amount, but that is worst-case scenario. Find someone you can trust and ask for help. Ask your Pastor at Church for help or go talk to an older business owner in your area that you can trust. Most small business owners have had their back to the wall many times and they know people who can help. Don't spend much money with a lawyer unless it is one that has come highly recommended from a trusted friend or Pastor or small business owner that has finally become successful. NOBODY is successful without taking some risk. If you take risk, sometimes you will get burnt. Go talk to some elders in your community who have been burnt and figured out a way out. I wish you were here. I know people here that I could pick up the phone and get you on the path to recovery. I'm sure there is someone in your community that can get you on the right path. If I can help further PM me.

 

RotorRunner

 

thank you, I'll keep you updated as my progress is furthered. Right now i just have to wait to get SSH on the phone to see if i can get the bill adjusted to be pro rated but who knows.

In their contract it says something like "After 18 months of in the program SSH is free from responsibility to continue any further training" But At 7-8 months and only 26 Flight hours I would have never finished their program by 18 months on that average and i had a VERY free schedule that allowed me to fly 3-4 times a week but I guess thankfully now they weren't able to because of student load and etc etc. I was also made nervous one day when my instructor demonstrating an auto slightly oversped the rotor system and when i mentioned it he assured me it was ok, but in class i was told that was a serious no no, obviously, when i say oversped i mean he put the rotor RPM needle into the red slightly. Also on another occasion When doing auto's we decided to do a power recovery go around and the helicopter seemed to have a very hard time coming back up to RPM and flux like a governer problem or something, and Another instructor of mine himself had 2 engine failures. One from a faulty carb float which failed in a hover seconds before a max performance takeoff over power lines and one in hover again when one set of Mags bit the dust and the craft fell right away, Anyway, I didn't even feel safe there and the stress is astounding with a "18 month job interview"

Theres no reason at all why anyone would want to go there, theres other schools for cheaper that lets you fly a lot more and doesn't charge in my case $3576 an hour for R22 instruction!

[Sparker]

They can't ruin your life. Check out Dave Ramsey... he is a nation debt and financial talk show host.... even if you don't agree with everything he helps people get through bankruptcy and lawsuits and bigger debt than you have. Some of the people that call him will make you feel good about your situation.

[jehh]

Like the others say, don't lose too much sleep over it...

 

First thing, do some Googling (is that a verb now?) for Silver State Class Action Lawsuit. Go make some friends and learn more about others who are trying to get some money back. If nothing else, talking about it with someone else in your shoes can be cheap therapy.

 

Second, give Silver State an honest chance to credit you some of that money. Ask nicely (yelling and name calling do not work), and explain that you are ok with paying for the services you used, but not for the total balance since you had to drop out. You might get 50% of it refunded that way.

 

Third, worst case you lose on both counts... If you default (I'm presuming that you cannot make the payments on your current income), it'll go on your credit for 7 years, they will send you a lot of nasty letters, bill collectors will call, etc. They cannot garnish wages without suing you first, and they almost never bother since you cannot squeeze blood from a rock. After 7 years, it'll drop off your credit report. The company that lent you money will never do so again, but no one else will know about it. You can also work with debt counseling, or consider bankruptcy, depending on your situation. Only someone who knows you can give you proper advice.

 

http://www.creditboards.com/mambo/

 

That is a good place to start. Check out the forums. Keep in mind that "Student Loans" and what you have are two DIFFERENT things. "Students Loans" are something backed by the federal government and involve a different set of laws than the private credit based loan that you have, so don't look at the student loan section, instead go to the general credit section and do a few hours of reading and educate yourself.

 

Keep in mind that knowledge is power, and right now you feel powerless because you don't know what you're up against. Once you learn how credit really works, and not "well this guy I know said", you'll have some power over the situation.

 

This is all the help you'll really get, now go do some reading, and learn...

[Signia]

Thank you guys for the actual credible advice. I will be utilizing it all for sure. I was half expecting people to be nasty with me saying I'm a fool or whatever because of this or that. Anyway thanks for the responses so Far as i can use all of this information.

And yeah My current income is about 43k a year with no OT so trying to hack a 1400 dollar payment per month when I take home about 2200 a month is hard/impossible With all my current just Living expenses alone NOT including food or gas bills are right at 1164 so that leaves 1036 left over for Gas, Food, and general stuff like auto repair, tires, etc Gas takes out about 300 a month at least and food at least another 300 or more so that leaves right about 500 dollars for any other expenses, and saving per month, not nearly enough to even begin to pay 1400 on a loan. :(

i could try to do sidework i guess for extra cash but without an IA I' very limited to what i can sign off.

Oh well, thanks for reading and helping, I'll let you guys in on my turmoil as it progresses and please don't ever recomend anyone to goto that school . If you have 70G to drop it would be better to have fractional ownership on a heli with that kinda cash than to pay to a company that says "give us 70G, and we may or may not train you, but please first we must have money".

 

I kinda fell into their pitch " If you want it bad enough you will get it, don't worry about 1400 dollar a month payment you'll be making huge money within a year or two of graduating etc etc, industry shortage etc etc.

Well When I was going to A&P school everyone said the same, oh theres a huge industry shortage blah blah blah you'll make so much money. Well thats a load, most A&P's unless you work for an airline or UPS or FEDEX seem to bring in around 15-24 dollars an hour. Many times much less. My first A&P job paid 11 an hour. Mesa airlines will give you 14 - 15 if you're lucky. FBO's pay around 15-19 per hour, and these are for guys with A&P's with IA's that have been doing this for 10+ years. Sorry about the rambling, its 4:50 AM on christmas, and I'm working! another perc of the aviation bussiness. ok later!

[freebird04]

I know SSH is supposed to be the devil, but even so, how can they legally keep the rest of the money? at Classic, the school I will go to, they listed very clearly what the cost per hour was and said that when you get your loan, it goes in an acct which you draw on as you go. If you ever cant continue they said dthe money thats left just goes back to the loan co. where else would it go? thats how it was with my student loan for college - I had to move halfway through and the school just sent half the money back to the bank. Now i'm only paying off the half I used. they have to account for how the money was used, and like you said, they cant charge $3576 an hour for instruction.

 

Don't let them intimidate you. From what i've heard there are alot of others like you. just keep good records and get help and i'm sure you will come out on top. Good luck!

[fry]

Read the Dispute Resolution section of the contract. It probably requires that you do the following in order: 1) enter into good faith discussion with the school, 2) enter into mediation, and then, 3) pursue legal action. It probably also provides for the party that does not prevail to pay the legal expenses of the other.

 

It is a process that favors the company...even if the company has a weak position...because it is long, involved and risky and is designed to frustrate the customer and encourage him to just give it up. And most will.

 

Telephone calls, verbal promises and discussions and pleas for understanding are a waste of time. The contract provisions are all that matter...and Silver State's contracts favor the company.

[jehh]

I know SSH is supposed to be the devil, but even so, how can they legally keep the rest of the money?

 

Because they have their students sign a contract that says they can. SSH "earns" 10% of the program price (~$7,000) per month you're enrolled in the program, regardless of how much progress you've actually made.

 

Why do people sign it? People sign bad auto leases every day, this is nothing new.

 

at Classic, the school I will go to, they listed very clearly what the cost per hour was and said that when you get your loan, it goes in an acct which you draw on as you go.

 

Yes, and most schools work that way. SSH does not.

 

Don't let them intimidate you. From what i've heard there are alot of others like you. just keep good records and get help and i'm sure you will come out on top. Good luck!

 

The challenge is that SSH can outspend him, even if he is right. That is why I suggested he be nice, and he should do everything in writing.

[Signia]

Because they have their students sign a contract that says they can. SSH "earns" 10% of the program price (~$7,000) per month you're enrolled in the program, regardless of how much progress you've actually made.

 

Why do people sign it? People sign bad auto leases every day, this is nothing new.

 

 

 

Yes, and most schools work that way. SSH does not.

 

 

 

The challenge is that SSH can outspend him, even if he is right. That is why I suggested he be nice, and he should do everything in writing.

 

 

something odd when i try to post it never instantly is displayed and sometimes never at all. Is there some sort of privilage thing or something that i'm missing? I posted something very early this morning and it still hasn't shown up yet.

[PhotoFlyer]

Read this.

 

http://helicopterforum.verticalreference.com/helicopterfor...?showtopic=5124

[Voluptuary5]

Signia,

 

In my opinion, Jehh's posts are right on. EVERYTHING with a price tag on it is negotiable. You also don't have a "traditional student loan" and so it is "bankruptable". If they are smart, they will negotiate to get at least some of your money as opposed to you filing bankruptcy and having them get nothing. In a lot of ways, you are in control here. For some analogies, start reading (if you don't know about it already) about what is going on with the current "sub-prime mortgage situation/scandal". Very similar to your SSH loan situation, actually. To try to keep the bottom from falling out, some mortgage lenders have become very willing to work with their "lendees" to try to come up with amenable payment terms. Again, the banks/lenders would rather get some/most of their money as opposed to none.

 

Like Jehh, I would also recommend being as polite and courteous as possible--it is my experience you get more flies with honey than vinegar as the saying goes. Try to find someone with a sympathetic ear and try to make them see your position from your point of view (in-person if at all possible). Ask them what they would do in your shoes and if it all seems fair to them. Try to get them as emotionally involved as you are. AND DON'T AGREE TO ANYTHING THAT ISN'T PUT BACK IN WRITING!!!

 

Also an FYI, but be careful following RotorRunner's advice about "debt counseling" for two reasons: 1) debt counseling as a non-profit industry doesn't have a very good reputation. So many problems can arise and again, ultimately they are not responsible--it is still your name on the debt. Don't believe me? Look up some "Debt Counselors" in your area and then look there name up on your State's Better Business Bureau website. 2) Utilizing Debt Counseling services can damage your credit just as much as a bankruptcy. So in-the-end, what is the benefit other than honoring some of your debt? Something you could do by negotiating with SSH personally.

 

Now to slightly hijack this thread:

 

Sparker,

 

Please don't take this personally--it is not meant as an attack--but I've noticed that you mention Dave Ramsey often. I agree with you that Dave Ramsey has some good, sound financial advice and I'm glad you've had success following his advice. But to you and everyone else, please don't forget that his advice is just one man's opinion in a financial sea of many. You can't dispute the fact that Dave Ramsey has built a very successful EMPIRE selling is philosophies, advice, and materials; therefore, he has an agenda to push and hence is biased to look after his business interests. If he really cared so much about getting people out of debt he would give away his services and financial materials for free. Anyone else see the irony of PAYING for materials to help you get out of DEBT?

 

Just my $0.02,

 

 

-V5

[RotorRunner]

Also an FYI, but be careful following RotorRunner's advice about "debt counseling" for two reasons: 1) debt counseling as a non-profit industry doesn't have a very good reputation.

 

Signia,

 

Yes, by all means, do not take my statement about Googling for help out of context with the whole rest of my post, or you will run into trouble. That is why I said:

 

Find someone you can trust and ask for help. Ask your Pastor at Church for help or go talk to an older business owner in your area that you can trust.

 

The statement about Googling for help was just to help you learn about your options.

 

You have been given some great advise and encouragement from all these guys.

 

Wish you well...

 

RR

Edited December 26, 2007 by RotorRunner

[Signia]

Signia,

 

Yes, by all means, do not take my statement about Googling for help out of context with the whole rest of my post, or you will run into trouble. That is why I said:

 

 

 

The statement about Googling for help was just to help you learn about your options.

 

You have been given some great advise and encouragement from all these guys.

 

Wish you well...

 

RR

 

this has all been more helpful than anticipated, I'm going to call SSH today and see if they;re in and if any news i'll update. Basically first I'm trying to get SS to cut the bill to what i actually owe, if that fails then i'll have to seek financial counseling debt consolidation and possibly bunkruptcy as i can't possibly pay for all that, and i couldn't even in principle pay 93K for 26 hours of R22 time, its not right at all. Let my lesson be a warning to others that may seek to school with SS, its a very risky school to be in. And that risk is unneccesarry.

[Guest pokey]

After reading about the ssh problems w/ people on this site & especially this one thread, i feel i must at least say "something".

 

Being in the helicopter business for close to 20 years, ( & still basically broke), i have seen that there are really only 2 possible ways to get rich in this business (isnt jerry airole rich?):

 

1) get lucky ( provide a service 'niche'), & get lucky (dont crash OR burn thru bank account) & stay lucky

 

2) lies/cunnig/deception ( & be lucky IF ya dont get caught)

 

 

After reading how i think their (ssh's) contract may be worded? & after reading all the sad stories? I have a heavy heart for all that got "taken" & that "buyer beware"? BS!---- ( i think that is how/why Smith & Wesson got into their business?)

 

I may be wrong, but i highy doubt if ssh's business practices are honorable & i cannot understand how they continue to ruin lives & decieve people,,,, YOU mean to tell me that "THEY" take a loan out for me & "use up" the $$ every month until my contract runs out in 18 months & then " EYE OWE YOU"?

 

amazing, that if i am seeing things right, that this guy can not only sleep at night, but feels safe to walk the streets !

[robby22_pilot]

Okay, I'd like to give you some info that may help... I have read over all of the conversation and agree with a few things, and disagree with a few things...

 

First, I am a silver state student going through my own hard times. I started 2006... I am in the process of a class action lawsuit... There are 20 students aboard at this point in Arizona... I am assuming that is where you are because you mentioned Mesa Airlines for your A/P position? If you are in Arizona, let me know and I will help you get aboard...

 

About me...

 

I am under 30 years old as well- so as far as having a huge loan and high interest, I know what you are going through. If your loan is through Student loan express, like mine, or AES, You get 2 years forbearance, automatically, for financial and health hardships.... yes you still collect interest, but it gives you an extra 2 years to figure out what you can do- or win a lawsuite if that is what you decide... You also get 2 years of interest only payments after that... So you can pay less for up to 4 years....

 

Yes talk to silver state financial department, but they are going to tell you that you signed a contract that you are committed to 10% every month that you are in the program... if you quit at 7 months, you are already committed to $50,000. You may be able to get $20,000 back- no I don't agree with that, but that is what I was told... Now I am in almost my whole 18 months... and I haven't even achieved my private rating, because the school cant provide for the demand of their students- I wont get any money back unless I do the lawsuit... and they want to boot me at the end of April- they say, "it's in the contract" and supposidly they are being nice to give me a 120 day extention... 4 months is definately not enough time to get what they said I would- This is what the lawsuit is based upon- them having a shitty contract that doesnt meet the needs of the amount of students they are bringing on each year. there are about 200 students at the school i attend, and only 6 helicopters... you do the math. I have a few other personal reasons, and if you'd like to contact me privately, I will talk to you in more detail... But as of now you do have some options.

 

As far as debt counseling, it is completely your choice. Yes it will affect your credit in the beginning, but if you sign up with the right program, I can also help you with that, they will get you out of debt, then help you rebuild your credit! so your credit will suffer for a while and show third party help... But that will also show you took the insentive to get help! And think about all the places that advertise, " Poor credit- no problem, we'll finance anyone" You don't need a brand new car to get buy.... Slightly used can be just as good.

 

Okay I have said what I want to at this point- but let me know if you want help. I hope everything works out!

[Signia]

Okay, I'd like to give you some info that may help... I have read over all of the conversation and agree with a few things, and disagree with a few things...

 

First, I am a silver state student going through my own hard times. I started 2006... I am in the process of a class action lawsuit... There are 20 students aboard at this point in Arizona... I am assuming that is where you are because you mentioned Mesa Airlines for your A/P position? If you are in Arizona, let me know and I will help you get aboard...

 

About me...

 

I am under 30 years old as well- so as far as having a huge loan and high interest, I know what you are going through. If your loan is through Student loan express, like mine, or AES, You get 2 years forbearance, automatically, for financial and health hardships.... yes you still collect interest, but it gives you an extra 2 years to figure out what you can do- or win a lawsuite if that is what you decide... You also get 2 years of interest only payments after that... So you can pay less for up to 4 years....

 

Yes talk to silver state financial department, but they are going to tell you that you signed a contract that you are committed to 10% every month that you are in the program... if you quit at 7 months, you are already committed to $50,000. You may be able to get $20,000 back- no I don't agree with that, but that is what I was told... Now I am in almost my whole 18 months... and I haven't even achieved my private rating, because the school cant provide for the demand of their students- I wont get any money back unless I do the lawsuit... and they want to boot me at the end of April- they say, "it's in the contract" and supposidly they are being nice to give me a 120 day extention... 4 months is definately not enough time to get what they said I would- This is what the lawsuit is based upon- them having a shitty contract that doesnt meet the needs of the amount of students they are bringing on each year. there are about 200 students at the school i attend, and only 6 helicopters... you do the math. I have a few other personal reasons, and if you'd like to contact me privately, I will talk to you in more detail... But as of now you do have some options.

 

As far as debt counseling, it is completely your choice. Yes it will affect your credit in the beginning, but if you sign up with the right program, I can also help you with that, they will get you out of debt, then help you rebuild your credit! so your credit will suffer for a while and show third party help... But that will also show you took the insentive to get help! And think about all the places that advertise, " Poor credit- no problem, we'll finance anyone" You don't need a brand new car to get buy.... Slightly used can be just as good.

 

Okay I have said what I want to at this point- but let me know if you want help. I hope everything works out!

 

Yes I'd like to get onboard that lawsuit as in 8 months or so only had 26 hours, and not by my flight scedule shortcomings.

 

How do i get in ?

PM me!

[Signia]

Okay, I'd like to give you some info that may help... I have read over all of the conversation and agree with a few things, and disagree with a few things...

 

First, I am a silver state student going through my own hard times. I started 2006... I am in the process of a class action lawsuit... There are 20 students aboard at this point in Arizona... I am assuming that is where you are because you mentioned Mesa Airlines for your A/P position? If you are in Arizona, let me know and I will help you get aboard...

 

About me...

 

I am under 30 years old as well- so as far as having a huge loan and high interest, I know what you are going through. If your loan is through Student loan express, like mine, or AES, You get 2 years forbearance, automatically, for financial and health hardships.... yes you still collect interest, but it gives you an extra 2 years to figure out what you can do- or win a lawsuite if that is what you decide... You also get 2 years of interest only payments after that... So you can pay less for up to 4 years....

 

Yes talk to silver state financial department, but they are going to tell you that you signed a contract that you are committed to 10% every month that you are in the program... if you quit at 7 months, you are already committed to $50,000. You may be able to get $20,000 back- no I don't agree with that, but that is what I was told... Now I am in almost my whole 18 months... and I haven't even achieved my private rating, because the school cant provide for the demand of their students- I wont get any money back unless I do the lawsuit... and they want to boot me at the end of April- they say, "it's in the contract" and supposidly they are being nice to give me a 120 day extention... 4 months is definately not enough time to get what they said I would- This is what the lawsuit is based upon- them having a shitty contract that doesnt meet the needs of the amount of students they are bringing on each year. there are about 200 students at the school i attend, and only 6 helicopters... you do the math. I have a few other personal reasons, and if you'd like to contact me privately, I will talk to you in more detail... But as of now you do have some options.

 

As far as debt counseling, it is completely your choice. Yes it will affect your credit in the beginning, but if you sign up with the right program, I can also help you with that, they will get you out of debt, then help you rebuild your credit! so your credit will suffer for a while and show third party help... But that will also show you took the insentive to get help! And think about all the places that advertise, " Poor credit- no problem, we'll finance anyone" You don't need a brand new car to get buy.... Slightly used can be just as good.

 

Okay I have said what I want to at this point- but let me know if you want help. I hope everything works out!

 

Yes I'd like to get onboard that lawsuit as in 8 months or so only had 26 hours, and not by my flight scedule shortcomings.

 

How do i get in ?

PM me!

[Sparker]

Sparker,

 

Please don't take this personally--it is not meant as an attack--but I've noticed that you mention Dave Ramsey often. I agree with you that Dave Ramsey has some good, sound financial advice and I'm glad you've had success following his advice. But to you and everyone else, please don't forget that his advice is just one man's opinion in a financial sea of many. You can't dispute the fact that Dave Ramsey has built a very successful EMPIRE selling is philosophies, advice, and materials; therefore, he has an agenda to push and hence is biased to look after his business interests. If he really cared so much about getting people out of debt he would give away his services and financial materials for free. Anyone else see the irony of PAYING for materials to help you get out of DEBT?

 

Just my $0.02,

 

 

-V5

I don't think I mention him that often... I think this was really the second time. I usually try to keep personal stuff like that to myself, but it seemed to apply here. I listen to more advice, not just from him but he has the most debt focus counseling of any I have seen.

 

I was very turned off by having to pay for it, too. I opted to use free resources to achieve the same goal. The radio is free and if you listen enough you can do his plan without paying a dime.

 

Unfortunately, I understand why he has to charge- has has 300 people on staff that need to be paid, and he needs a house, too... a much bigger house than me. He does offer free advice, and has programs to help people who can't pay for his hands on program.

 

No offense taken, there are many ways to tackle a situation, I have just had good luck with this one.

 

[FLHooker]

Damn, I really have nothing to offer but my own apology. Everytime I hear something about SSH it's always negative. I don't see how people sleep at night knowing that they are screwing good people.

 

 

Signia, I would certainly take it to a good lawyer. See what THEY said that they would provide. Even if they fell short on the smallest of things that is in the contract, you (with the assistance of a good lawyer) could make the contract null and void, which hopefully not make you financially responsible for it. I am not a lawyer, but that sounds about right to me. In my opinion, don't loose sleep like others have said, but fight it. That company needs to be out of business yesterday. It sickens me that someone can do that in such a tight community like helicopter pilots.

 

 

 

 

CHAD

[Signia]

Damn, I really have nothing to offer but my own apology. Everytime I hear something about SSH it's always negative. I don't see how people sleep at night knowing that they are screwing good people.

 

 

Signia, I would certainly take it to a good lawyer. See what THEY said that they would provide. Even if they fell short on the smallest of things that is in the contract, you (with the assistance of a good lawyer) could make the contract null and void, which hopefully not make you financially responsible for it. I am not a lawyer, but that sounds about right to me. In my opinion, don't loose sleep like others have said, but fight it. That company needs to be out of business yesterday. It sickens me that someone can do that in such a tight community like helicopter pilots.

 

 

 

 

CHAD

 

things are falling into place, i have gotten some legal services together and may be able to get into this class action suit as well. Maybe if all goes well i can get my medical handled and by back up flying with a different school sometime this coming year!

[FLHooker]

Good deal man, good deal.

 

I don't know where you live and if you are trying to stay local or mind moving, but I did a little research on a couple of helo flight schools here in FL. One of my favorites was actually the Bristow Academy in Titusville, FL. They also have about 200 students, however, they have something like 50 aircraft. Their website is www.heli.com

 

 

 

CHAD

[Jason H]

I am a student at SSH in florida and have had the same things go on to me. The contract is bad and they dont disclose anything up front, you better read that contract. SSH has very bad practices and there contract terms are the only way they stay in bussines. It is real sad.