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I'm having my MI-24 Hind D transported to the Chandler Airport here in Arizona. It's been taking a while to get everything together and the project has had its share of delays. Patience is a word that I am less than thrilled with right now but things are finally moving. Hopefully it will be here late March, early April of 2008. It's being crated up for transportation starting the end of January. Form 6 is approved ( it's in England right now ). This will be quite a switch from flying an R-22.

 

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I'm having my MI-24 Hind D transported to the Chandler Airport here in Arizona. It's been taking a while to get everything together and the project has had its share of delays. Patience is a word that I am less than thrilled with right now but things are finally moving. Hopefully it will be here late March, early April of 2008. It's being crated up for transportation starting the end of January. Form 6 is approved ( it's in England right now ). This will be quite a switch from flying an R-22.

 

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Cool! Are you going to have an open house (open helicopter?) so we can check it out? :)

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Cool! Are you going to have an open house (open helicopter?) so we can check it out? :)

 

Sure, I'll post here when it arrives. I can send pictures over if anyones interested. I just thought I would share. Whoever is around can come over and we'll have a bbq, check out the Hind. No one else in my family flies so it's hard to talk about the details with them. From what I am told, you don't need much pedal on the take off but more on the landings, which doesn't quite make sense to me but I only have a 100 hours in a R22 right now anyway so what do I know? I think you have to be careful on sharp turns as well because the outside wing on the turn will generate lift giving you more bank than you want. At least it has more room and A/C. I'm 6'2" and can barely fit in an R22. How many other tall guys have their backs killing them after flying for a couple of hours?

 

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So who do you anticipate performing the assembly and then teaching you how to fly! What maintenance program are you goig to use?

 

Trust me, those questions need to be answered!

It sounds as if you are about to become a statistic!

 

Good luck!

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Can't wait to see that. Just curious, how and why?

 

Because you can't put an ice chest and all the rest of your camping stuff in an R-22. The Hind makes more sense ( never mind the 240 gph it burns, in fact, let's just throw out the brutal financial aspect of it altogether ). All jokes aside, I am interested in military history and would like to someday raise enough money to open a museum. Can't do that without something that will attract the general public. The Hind will hopefully generate public interest/ support for the project.

 

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So who do you anticipate performing the assembly and then teaching you how to fly! What maintenance program are you goig to use?

 

Trust me, those questions need to be answered!

It sounds as if you are about to become a statistic!

 

Good luck!

 

Nuke,

 

I have a specialist coming over to re-assemble the Hind after transport. It is coming with approximately 2 years worth of time sensitive parts. Complete logs of all components. Have also talked extensively with the local FSDO here about the project and will have their involvement

every step of the way. Also, I have a source of parts established as well. I've also identified here in the U.S. a specialist for the Hind and where I can actually get rated to fly it. The maintenance program approved by the FAA is very extensive for the Hind, fortunately, there are Maintenance manuals in English which are also acceptable. The internet is useless when finding out specifics about the Hind. Just gives you the usual performance/ history topics. Does that answer your questions? I understand your points. Was just trying to leave the very un-fun boring, paperwork out of the discussion.

 

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Nuke,

 

I have a specialist coming over to re-assemble the Hind after transport. It is coming with approximately 2 years worth of time sensitive parts. Complete logs of all components. Have also talked extensively with the local FSDO here about the project and will have their involvement

every step of the way. Also, I have a source of parts established as well. I've also identified here in the U.S. a specialist for the Hind and where I can actually get rated to fly it. The maintenance program approved by the FAA is very extensive for the Hind, fortunately, there are Maintenance manuals in English which are also acceptable. The internet is useless when finding out specifics about the Hind. Just gives you the usual performance/ history topics. Does that answer your questions? I understand your points. Was just trying to leave the very un-fun boring, paperwork out of the discussion.

 

Chad

There are only two "FAA" rated Mi-24 pilots in the US. I know you have not made contact with them to train you.

 

This beast is not a R-22.

 

Also, The FAA does not have an approved Maint program. They can approve one that you submit but they will not give you one!

 

Good Luck!

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There are only two "FAA" rated Mi-24 pilots in the US. I know you have not made contact with them to train you.

 

This beast is not a R-22.

 

Also, The FAA does not have an approved Maint program. They can approve one that you submit but they will not give you one!

 

Good Luck!

 

You mean James M. The British guy, and yes, I have contacted him. Florida, well, he was in Oregon last we talked but the other Hinds were in Florida. There is nothing impossible about doing this. The other possibility if for some reason I can't get his help is simply find someone abroad. This should hopefully generate the publicity the Museum needs to get more support. Might as well have fun doing it. So the guys you know work for James? Again, I was trying to leave the boring paperwork side of it. Do you want to help me with this part off list? What is your relationship with James?

 

I know about submitting the maint. program. James simply used the Russian one translated to English and submitted that. I'm doing the same thing, no big deal. Just time, money and patience. Stay committed to the project and have fun doing it.

 

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You could have a blast on the air show circuit. They would love to have it! And they pay!

 

They would have to pay because the Hind burns something like 240 gph and I am not rich ( which you should be if you are going to get something like this ). I think they cost around 3k per hour to operate.

 

Chad

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They would have to pay because the Hind burns something like 240 gph and I am not rich ( which you should be if you are going to get something like this ). I think they cost around #k per hour to operate.

 

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You mean 3k?

 

That doesn't sound too bad, considering you could fit 8pax in there, and maybe another one who'd have to pay a little extra to ride the co pilot's seat....

 

 

if you need test passengers: I would do it for free!

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You mean 3k?

 

That doesn't sound too bad, considering you could fit 8pax in there, and maybe another one who'd have to pay a little extra to ride the co pilot's seat....

 

 

if you need test passengers: I would do it for free!

 

 

It might sound good, but remember that is probably the cost to operate..... not what the charge out rate would be. cost to operate 3k charge out rate prob 10K, now do the maths. lucky hes not doing it commercially...

 

good luck to you Chad. especially if you haven't got heaps of money. we took the first restricted category helicopter to the Southern Hemisphere for civil operations. man you were right about time money and patience. we had a good ol USA Bell UH1 and the feds still hate us, you are going to have some real fun.

 

Anyway take care, and remember it isn't a 22, it is a big helicopter. don't do anything stupid and you will have a heap of fun. I would also suggest that you don't fly your mates around by yourself until you have done a few hundred hrs in it, or if you do early, just remember that they will all be happy just to go for a couple of circuits.

 

have fun man. be careful.

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I'm currently a student at Quantum, so there's a good chance I'll be able to be there! ;-)

 

Where is it going the be rebuilt at? Do you have a hanger, or are you just going to build it out on the helicopter ramp, once all the superbowl traffic is gone?

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They would have to pay because the Hind burns something like 240 gph and I am not rich ( which you should be if you are going to get something like this ). I think they cost around 3k per hour to operate.

 

Chad

 

Not rich but you own a Hind? :huh: I guess "Not rich anymore" would be a better wording! :D Seriously awesome though! Wish I could get out to see it! I got to sit in one (along with a few Russian MiGs) at Nellis AFB, but it was pretty beat up. HUGE!

 

WOLVERINES!

 

(I know it wasn't really a Hind 24 in the movie, but I really wanted to say that)

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That is extremely cool.

 

Do you mind my asking what you paid for the ship? I understand they are fairly inexpensive to buy (not run and maintain of course).

 

I've seen several Hinds in Europe and flew one .. in Battlefield 1942 Desert Combat anyway.. :).

 

Good luck with your project, keep us all updated. I would love to come out and see that thing fly!

 

Thanks.

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You mean 3k?

 

That doesn't sound too bad, considering you could fit 8pax in there, and maybe another one who'd have to pay a little extra to ride the co pilot's seat....

 

 

if you need test passengers: I would do it for free!

 

 

If it gets certified it will be in the restricted category. That means no passengers unless they are performing mission specific operations limited to what the aircraft is allowed to do.

 

 

 

Question to the new owner. Is the Hind a two pilot aircraft much like the S61, S64 etc. Also, its been awhile since I've seen a Russian aircraft but if memory serves me dont they have to be started from the flight engineers seat. I was told the Ruskies did this to help prevent a pilot from defecting. Inorder for him to defect he had to get another person to defect as well since he wasnt able to or didn't know how to start the aircraft.

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If it gets certified it will be in the restricted category. That means no passengers unless they are performing mission specific operations limited to what the aircraft is allowed to do.

 

 

 

Question to the new owner. Is the Hind a two pilot aircraft much like the S61, S64 etc. Also, its been awhile since I've seen a Russian aircraft but if memory serves me dont they have to be started from the flight engineers seat. I was told the Ruskies did this to help prevent a pilot from defecting. Inorder for him to defect he had to get another person to defect as well since he wasnt able to or didn't know how to start the aircraft.

Just to chime in here. It can not be certified Restricted. It will have to be Experimental (Exhibition)! No passengers for hire!

 

It is a one pilot aircraft. the Gunner sits in front and can not start the aircraft. He can fly it only if the pilot allows him to engage the flight controls from the pilot seat, and it is more than difficult to fly from the front! It is almost considered an emergency procedure to allow the Gunner to land due to pilot injury!

 

No Flight Engineer in this one unlike the Mi-8 or Mi-17. They normaly fly with a crew of 3.

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Just to chime in here. It can not be certified Restricted. It will have to be Experimental (Exhibition)! No passengers for hire!

 

It is a one pilot aircraft. the Gunner sits in front and can not start the aircraft. He can fly it only if the pilot allows him to engage the flight controls from the pilot seat, and it is more than difficult to fly from the front! It is almost considered an emergency procedure to allow the Gunner to land due to pilot injury!

 

No Flight Engineer in this one unlike the Mi-8 or Mi-17. They normaly fly with a crew of 3.

 

 

You are right. I meant to say experimental just had a brain fart when I posted. Thanks for the clarification in regards to the gunner and engineers. It has been close to 10 years since I last got close to a Russian aircraft but I do remember the 8 and 17's having engineers but didn't know about the Hind.

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You are right. I meant to say experimental just had a brain fart when I posted. Thanks for the clarification in regards to the gunner and engineers. It has been close to 10 years since I last got close to a Russian aircraft but I do remember the 8 and 17's having engineers but didn't know about the Hind.

 

The Hind will be difficult anyway you slice it. James uses his for work. I've heard stories of a few other people trying to get theirs going but nothing concrete other that Global's. I did run into luck with the amount of spares I am getting. He (James from Global ) went over in great lengths the amount of difficulty it was for him to get his approved but obviously it can be done. I took this project on knowing the paperwork would be a pain but the other side is why not? Because it is very expensive? You can always make more money but I don't want to be 80 years old talking about what I should have done. I am hoping if everything goes well with transportation that the blades will be turning the end of March, early April but everything else on this project has been delayed so we shall see. Even after I get the blades turning, there's still all that fun paperwork to get done. Again, this is nothing but time and money. I hope everyone can come out for the BBQ. Have a good collection of military vehicles we will bring out as well for that from WWII to present day.

 

 

 

Chad

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