Cyclic & Collective \ Professional Helicopter Pilot Studies

TheLorax · March 2, 2008

Has anyone read Cyclic and Collective? At heli-expo i got to hang out with the author, Shawn Coyle, and his book was highly recommended from various people. Can anyone compare this to any other study/reading material and recommend it or any other titles?

Also, I met Phil Croucher who is author of many books, one of which he personally recommended to me and anyone who is a pilot: Professional Helicopter Pilot Studies. Comments, criticism?

Thanks in advance.

(mind you, this is not for fictional titles, only real-world 'academic' books)

HelliBoy · March 2, 2008

I would generally consider it impossible for a student to read too much. Both are good, along with a host of others.

C of G · March 2, 2008

Cyclic and Collective is one of the easiest reads and most informative books out there. As a student, my instructor highly recommended his first book, The Art and Science of Flying Helicopters, and I in turn did the same for my students. This is his more recent publication, and he has been in works (for a while) on number three. His publication company has also re-printed the long out of press "Helicopter Aerodynamics" series by Prouty. I have the original three, and I am still going to buy the re-print just to have all in one place. Coyle has an interesting take on things and reading his book is about as close as I have seen to a conversation about helicopters put to print. I think it's a much easier read then Wagdendonk, and much better than anything the FAA has put out.

67november · March 2, 2008

I have Phil Crouchers book and I'm going thru it now along with Mr Wagtendonk's book. I highly recommend both, great learning tools, Mr Croucher's book is being required more and more by flight schools and I can see why.

spw1177 · March 2, 2008

Cyclic & Collective is best helicopter "textbook" I have read. It is also the most enjoyable to read (When was the last time you found yourself chuckling at the Rotorcraft Flying Handbook?). Coyle's book provides more depth and detail than other books I have read, but it does so in such a way that it is still very accessible and easy to comprehend. I have had it for a few years now and I still pick it up occasionally when I need a good read to pass the time.

TheLorax · March 3, 2008

sounds great, thanks for all of the input. both authors are very nice to talk to as well.

doanut99 · March 3, 2008

Anyone know a good place to pick these up online? I looked on Amazon and C&C was $149, and that seems WAY high for a book.

67november · March 3, 2008

you can get it here

http://www.helicoptersonly.com/index1.html

for 39.95

Edited March 3, 2008 by 67november

birddog · March 3, 2008

Thanks for the positive comments about Phil & Shawn and our books!! We enjoyed meeting many of you at Heli-Expo.

C of G, sorry I missed you!!

Matt

bqmassey · March 3, 2008

Thanks for the positive comments about Phil & Shawn and our books!! We enjoyed meeting many of you at Heli-Expo.

C of G, sorry I missed you!!

Matt

I'm still interested in a signed copy of Cyclic and Collective. Any way we can make that happen?

C of G · March 4, 2008

Thanks for the positive comments about Phil & Shawn and our books!! We enjoyed meeting many of you at Heli-Expo.

C of G, sorry I missed you!!

Matt

Hey Matt,

Yea, I missed all of Expo this year, I had to work. I am enjoying my two weeks off at the moment, though. I hope it was a good trip for you. Take care...........