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Hello everyone,

 

 

I just submitted my warrant packet for the July board. Can anyone tell me my chances of making the board with a waiver for age and time in service. I have been in for 12 years and 33 years of age. The cut off for AFS is 12 years but the age is 32 years. I have also read that the age limit is 33 is some of my research on line. I submitted waivers for both just in case I need them. A recruiter told me to send them in but I was curious if I actually need them. Do my packet have a chance of making the board with those waivers. I scored a 114 on the AFAST, scored a 271 on the APFT, and have 3 strong letters of recommendations. 1 letter from a CW5 in SOAR, 1 letter from my BC, and another letter from a MG who I work for the last 3 years.

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Hello everyone,

 

 

I just submitted my warrant packet for the July board. Can anyone tell me my chances of making the board with a waiver for age and time in service. I have been in for 12 years and 33 years of age. The cut off for AFS is 12 years but the age is 32 years. I have also read that the age limit is 33 is some of my research on line. I submitted waivers for both just in case I need them. A recruiter told me to send them in but I was curious if I actually need them. Do my packet have a chance of making the board with those waivers. I scored a 114 on the AFAST, scored a 271 on the APFT, and have 3 strong letters of recommendations. 1 letter from a CW5 in SOAR, 1 letter from my BC, and another letter from a MG who I work for the last 3 years.

 

First and foremost congrats on submitting your packet. Playing the waiting game is the hardest part and to be honest with you no one here can tell you if you if you'll pass the board selection process with those waivers. Waivers aren't a bad thing, necessarily, I had a couple waivers myself and was still accepted.

 

Good luck.

 

WOC Quinones

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I wouldn't sweat it, there are plenty of guys here on age waivers. I've never even heard of the years of service being brought up.

 

The website states that a waiver is needed for AFS more than 12 years of service. I am exactly at 12 years so I submitted a waiver. I hope my packet gets boarded with 12 years of service and 33 years of age. Thanks for the info. I will keep my fingers crossed.

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to be honest with you no one here can tell you if you if you'll pass the board selection process with those waivers.

 

 

WOC Q: I agree with your statement above.

 

I too have submitted my packet and I'm waiting for the board to convene (June 6th). I feel really confident that I put together a solid packet. However, I know that even though I don't have any waivers and it all looks good, everything that I have put forth all depends on this board. They decide if they want me to be an Army aviator......

 

Good Luck to you on the July board skyshark.

 

 

Question to WOC Quinones or anyone who has or is going through Initial Entry Rotary Wing Course:

 

What type of material would one want to get familiar with (other than actually flying) before getting there? Maps, weather, radio, etc... ? Are there any books or websites that might be helpful to a hopeful?

 

Thanks,

JB

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WOC Q: I agree with your statement above.

 

I too have submitted my packet and I'm waiting for the board to convene (June 6th). I feel really confident that I put together a solid packet. However, I know that even though I don't have any waivers and it all looks good, everything that I have put forth all depends on this board. They decide if they want me to be an Army aviator......

 

Good Luck to you on the July board skyshark.

 

 

Question to WOC Quinones or anyone who has or is going through Initial Entry Rotary Wing Course:

 

What type of material would one want to get familiar with (other than actually flying) before getting there? Maps, weather, radio, etc... ? Are there any books or websites that might be helpful to a hopeful?

 

Thanks,

JB

 

 

Go to http://www.lsirucker.com/home/ and go through the "STUDENT AREA"

 

Also get a copy of the FAA's "Rotorcraft Flying Handbook" or AC 61-13b when I read it. Google it and download the .PDF version of you can't buy it. It should give you the 'nuts and bolts' big picture of RW flying and aerodynamics. The Army will give you everything you need and teach you everything you need to know but reading the RFH will get you going and make you feel like you are making progress.

 

Good Luck

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Go to http://www.lsirucker.com/home/ and go through the "STUDENT AREA"

 

Also get a copy of the FAA's "Rotorcraft Flying Handbook" or AC 61-13b when I read it. Google it and download the .PDF version of you can't buy it. It should give you the 'nuts and bolts' big picture of RW flying and aerodynamics. The Army will give you everything you need and teach you everything you need to know but reading the RFH will get you going and make you feel like you are making progress.

 

Good Luck

 

 

If you really want to start studying up, find a copy of the -10 for the TH67. If your guard and know what airframe your going to be in get the -10 for that too from your unit. look at chapters 5 and 9 mostly.

 

Some shops here in the Ft. Rucker area, mostly "Wings" and "The Copy Smith" have study guides and flash cards available to purchase, I'm sure they have websites if you look and if not, PM me and I'll dig up a phone # for them, they would be happy to mail you the study material.

 

You have lots of stuff to worry about before that's a concern so you may end up forgetting a lot of it. Every little bit helps though I suppose.

 

For my above comments about not sweating it, I mean don't sweat the waiver part. Getting into flightschool is still pretty competitive. Requiring or having those waivers wont disqualify you outright.

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Thats really good info Mymm. Thanks.

 

ALLCON:

 

Question: How does the Army determine what air frame you'll fly?

 

I've heard that in the past the top students chose their airframe. I've also heard that NOW its based on a psych test. Is this true?

 

Just wondering if we have a say in what air frame we'll be flying.

 

Thanks.

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Thats really good info Mymm. Thanks.

 

ALLCON:

 

Question: How does the Army determine what air frame you'll fly?

 

I've heard that in the past the top students chose their airframe. I've also heard that NOW its based on a psych test. Is this true?

 

Just wondering if we have a say in what air frame we'll be flying.

 

Thanks.

 

 

For AD folks, it's based on a "Order of Merits" system. They take your test scores and check ride scores from primary and toss in your PT score against others in your class. The army sends a list down of available airframes and #1 on the OML picks what he/she wants and it goes from there. One of the problems with this is say you want to fly 58's. Even if your #1 there may not be any 58's available for that selection period so you still wont get it.

 

That being said, everyone I've ever talked to says you'll love anything you get and choose the mission, not the airframe.

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For AD folks, it's based on a "Order of Merits" system. They take your test scores and check ride scores from primary and toss in your PT score against others in your class. The army sends a list down of available airframes and #1 on the OML picks what he/she wants and it goes from there. One of the problems with this is say you want to fly 58's. Even if your #1 there may not be any 58's available for that selection period so you still wont get it.

 

That being said, everyone I've ever talked to says you'll love anything you get and choose the mission, not the airframe.

 

 

Heard, understood, and acknowledged. Lima Charlie.

 

thanks

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I would caution about studying a -10 for your airframe before you finish with the TH-67. You will be so busy, etc.. with all types of numbers in your head, that you will, without fail say an EP or Limit for your advanced airframe while you are still in the 67. Just best if you completely wait until you are done with the 67. Just my 2 Cents.

 

 

Typically, 58's and 47's are the hardest to get. Simply because they are the fewest in the Army inventory. When I left out of Rucker, there was a class that was damn near 100% Apache slots. That sucks.

 

Not even mentioning that you will probably change your mind 18 times before you get to BWS and have to select. As stated before, go for the mission/personality. However, all the aircraft are bad ass, can you really complain about flying any of them?!

 

 

 

CHAD

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I would caution about studying a -10 for your airframe before you finish with the TH-67. You will be so busy, etc.. with all types of numbers in your head, that you will, without fail say an EP or Limit for your advanced airframe while you are still in the 67. Just best if you completely wait until you are done with the 67. Just my 2 Cents.

 

 

Typically, 58's and 47's are the hardest to get. Simply because they are the fewest in the Army inventory. When I left out of Rucker, there was a class that was damn near 100% Apache slots. That sucks.

 

Not even mentioning that you will probably change your mind 18 times before you get to BWS and have to select. As stated before, go for the mission/personality. However, all the aircraft are bad ass, can you really complain about flying any of them?!

 

 

 

CHAD

 

your right...and I wouldn't complain at all...im so psyched about the entire process...I finally leave tomorrow...to enlist in Okinawa...then i leave the next day to Ft. Rucker.

 

Just wanted to say thanks for the help during the application process. I appreciate everyone's advice.

 

FLHooker thanks for answering a ton of repetitive questions....its much appreciated.

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your right...and I wouldn't complain at all...im so psyched about the entire process...I finally leave tomorrow...to enlist in Okinawa...then i leave the next day to Ft. Rucker.

 

Just wanted to say thanks for the help during the application process. I appreciate everyone's advice.

 

FLHooker thanks for answering a ton of repetitive questions....its much appreciated.

 

 

I start Aeromed on Tuesday, send me a PM for my phone if you need help this week.

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Responding to the question earlier of where to find study guides, I found one that looks really useful. www.flightschoolstudyguide.com. You have to have an AKO account to register. I'm not in flight school yet (I report to WOCS in October) so I don't know if they have everything you'd need but it looks like they have just about everything I could think of.

 

Blake

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your right...and I wouldn't complain at all...im so psyched about the entire process...I finally leave tomorrow...to enlist in Okinawa...then i leave the next day to Ft. Rucker.

 

Just wanted to say thanks for the help during the application process. I appreciate everyone's advice.

 

FLHooker thanks for answering a ton of repetitive questions....its much appreciated.

 

Good luck to you and let us know how everything goes.

 

Blake

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yup...i sure will...im in atlanta now...getting ready to fly into dothan...i'll get there late...first reception battalion...then ....i have no idea. LOL.

 

this is going to be great...LOL

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Hello everyone,

 

 

I just submitted my warrant packet for the July board. Can anyone tell me my chances of making the board with a waiver for age and time in service. I have been in for 12 years and 33 years of age. The cut off for AFS is 12 years but the age is 32 years. I have also read that the age limit is 33 is some of my research on line. I submitted waivers for both just in case I need them. A recruiter told me to send them in but I was curious if I actually need them. Do my packet have a chance of making the board with those waivers. I scored a 114 on the AFAST, scored a 271 on the APFT, and have 3 strong letters of recommendations. 1 letter from a CW5 in SOAR, 1 letter from my BC, and another letter from a MG who I work for the last 3 years.

 

I am putting my packet in very soon and need an AFS waiver. Can anyone provide me with a copy of theirs.

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