KeallaS Posted January 22, 2007 Posted January 22, 2007 I have used the search feature and I am not finding exactly what I am looking for.My question is for instructing in the R22 or R44 how many hours are required for a newly minted CFI to be insured? Is it 200 or 250? I have been told that to get the Pathfinder insurance you need 300 hours to be employable as a Robinson instructor at any school that teaches with Robinsons. Can this be right?I am not looking for FAA regs or SFAR or anything like that. I need to know how many flight hours are required by the Helicopter insurance industry for teaching in Robinson Helicopters.It seems that certain people in the business might be trying to keep it a secret....Someone please clarify...Thanks Quote
flingwing206 Posted January 22, 2007 Posted January 22, 2007 I have used the search feature and I am not finding exactly what I am looking for.My question is for instructing in the R22 or R44 how many hours are required for a newly minted CFI to be insured? Is it 200 or 250? I have been told that to get the Pathfinder insurance you need 300 hours to be employable as a Robinson instructor at any school that teaches with Robinsons. Can this be right?I am not looking for FAA regs or SFAR or anything like that. I need to know how many flight hours are required by the Helicopter insurance industry for teaching in Robinson Helicopters.It seems that certain people in the business might be trying to keep it a secret....Someone please clarify...Thanks300 hours required by Pathfinder - at least 50 in type. This is as of a year ago. Quote
svtcobra66 Posted January 22, 2007 Posted January 22, 2007 (edited) I have used the search feature and I am not finding exactly what I am looking for.My question is for instructing in the R22 or R44 how many hours are required for a newly minted CFI to be insured? Is it 200 or 250? I have been told that to get the Pathfinder insurance you need 300 hours to be employable as a Robinson instructor at any school that teaches with Robinsons. Can this be right?I am not looking for FAA regs or SFAR or anything like that. I need to know how many flight hours are required by the Helicopter insurance industry for teaching in Robinson Helicopters.It seems that certain people in the business might be trying to keep it a secret....Someone please clarify...Thanks Well there is the insurance industry and then there is Pathfinder. I'm not sure on pathfinder's requirements, but there is no time requirement (other than the FAA mandated requirements) through other insurance carriers. AIG and Sutton James have a Robinson program that is pretty flexible; you will pay more if you are inexperienced, but assuming you are a CFI there is no real hour requirement. Just be careful with Pathfinder, i know they are so much cheaper but YOU are responsible for moving the damaged helicopter to the facility in California (what if it's in a lake?). You also have your liability cut in half, and the hull value depreciates. If you must use pathfinder, secure hull-only coverage with them, and get your liability policy elsewhere. Edited January 22, 2007 by svtcobra66 Quote
KeallaS Posted January 22, 2007 Author Posted January 22, 2007 300 hours?!What does this mean? If most schools graduate CFIIs with about 200 hours TT in Robinsons how are they supposed to be insured with flight schools who are willing to hire them for instructing? Are owners willing to pay higher insurance(not pathfinder) for the less experienced CFIs?I guess I am just having a hard time adding this up. Will those CFIs have to pay for an extra 100 hours somehow before they can actually instruct? Quote
flingwing206 Posted January 22, 2007 Posted January 22, 2007 300 hours?!What does this mean? If most schools graduate CFIIs with about 200 hours TT in Robinsons how are they supposed to be insured with flight schools who are willing to hire them for instructing? Are owners willing to pay higher insurance(not pathfinder) for the less experienced CFIs?I guess I am just having a hard time adding this up. Will those CFIs have to pay for an extra 100 hours somehow before they can actually instruct?Now you are asking the right question. There is other work besides instruction, and there are schools that either con't use Pathfinder, or have supplemental riders or limitations to cover that 100-hour gap. Welcome to the world of the new CFI! Quote
jehh Posted January 25, 2007 Posted January 25, 2007 Not all schools use Pathfinder, however many do. 300 hours with 50 in type is what Pathfinder requires. Other companies are 200 hours, but cost twice as much to insure. Still more don't carry aircraft specific insurance (just general liability), so they would be at 200 hours as well. We use Schweizer 300CBs as well as R-22s, getting you flight time in both types. We start our new CFIs out in the Schweizer, and once they have 300 hours, they can also teach in the R-22 (we use Pathfinder). Quote
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