lelebebbel Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 These are the requirements i found online:Gold Seal certification. This is a one-time permanent qualification, and when awarded, is good for a one-time renewal of the CFI certificate. The permanent certificate even has the FAA logo in gold. Years ago, having Gold Seal meant that the CFI held an instrument rating, but since the instrument rating is now required, Gold Seal takes on a new meaning. To earn Gold Seal certification, the CFI must demonstrate over the preceding 24 calendar months, at least an 80% first-time pass rate based on a minimum of 10 sign-offs.Moreover, the CFI must also hold either an Advanced Ground Instructor (AGI) or Instrument Ground Instructor (IGI) certificate. I have the required sign offs and the knowledge test for IGI shouldn't be a problem ( - the only question is, do I need to be a CFI for 24 months before getting a gold seal?I did not think so, but then I found a post online by a guy who said he was denied his gold seal because he got his CFI less than 24 months ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rotormandan Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 You also have to be a dpe or sign off at least 20 peole if not dpe (1) holds a Flight Instructor Certificate and at least a Commercial Pilot Certificate with an Instrument rating; (2) holds a Ground Instructor Certificate with an Advanced or an Instrument Ground Instructor rating; and (3) within the past 24 months has accom- plished one of the following: (a) trained and recommended for certification at least 10 applicants for certificates or ratings; 80 percent of these applicants must have passed the flight test on their first attempt; ( conducted at least 20 practical tests as a designated pilot examiner or 20 graduation tests as chief flight instructor for an approved pilot school course; or© a combination of (a) and ( (two practical tests equal one trained and recommended applicant). http://robinleabman.com/milehighclub/Part_...equirements.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lelebebbel Posted January 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 (edited) no, 10 sign offs are enough. "Has accomplished ONE of the following". Edited January 15, 2009 by lelebebbel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rotormandan Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 I stand corrected. Then give it a shot. If they deny you because you need 24 months then try again when you have that rquirement met. I didn't see anything that said you had to be a CFI for that long though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSG Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 You do NOT need to be a CFI for 24 months before adding the Gold Seal. Reference:http://fsims.faa.govFAA Order 8900.1Volume 5Chapter 2Section 135-571 ProceduresE. Required Criteria I spoke with Principal Operations Inspector Susan Fraher at the Windsor Locks FSDO in Connecticut this afternoon. She confirmed this reference as current and correct. You do NOT need to be a CFI for 24 months before adding the Gold Seal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lelebebbel Posted January 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2009 thank you very much. I will submit my 8710 next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Hughes Posted January 17, 2009 Report Share Posted January 17, 2009 If you have your numbers now then git er dun! My wife was just about to apply for her's, with her over 80% average and once she started signing off CFIs, the ass fell clean out of her average! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lelebebbel Posted January 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 (edited) Picked up my temporary IGI and CFI with Gold Seal today!Thanks for the advice. Now i just need to get a gold pen to sign logbooks. p.s.: just in case anyone is wondering, according to my fsdo, the gold seal on the certificate is not made out of actual gold. Edited January 21, 2009 by lelebebbel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rotormandan Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 So what did you do? You take your IGI or AGI and take the results with you certificate to the FSDO? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lelebebbel Posted January 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 (edited) you take the IGI or AGI knowledge test at a testing center of your choice (no endorsment necessary). Then you take the test result printout to your local FSDO along with a photo ID and your current CFI and Commercial Pilot certificate, fill out an 8710, and get a temporary IGI or AGI certificate. Then you fill out another 8710, hand over your old CFI and get a temporary CFI gold seal certificate back, with a new 2 year expiration date on it. Call them in advance and tell them what you want, so they can check your records and see if you have enought signoffs. Then bring some sort of record of the signoffs you did to the appointment. A list with all the checkride dates, results and names of your students will probably be enough since they have everything in their database as well. I brought copies of all the IACRA/8710s i signed, plus copies of the temp. certificates issued to my students. Edited January 22, 2009 by lelebebbel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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