Training for jobs

[bossman]

Anybody who advertises the way you do, including getting the hired help to pitch in with it, has no feelings to be hurt.

 

No, I don't own the S76, I don't pay for the fuel, or the insurance, or anything else. The owner pays me damned little to fly it, though. And he's pocketing a hell of a lot of money off my labor. His profit margins are very large. He just doesn't want to share it. I've come to disbelieve any claims by any owners about anything.

Gomer Piles,

Don't get your panties in a wad. Me thinks we have struck a nerve. Maybe you should seek other employment. You could become a flight instructor and spen your waining years telling students how you were taken advantage of by all your corrupt bosses.

[propwasher]

SSSHHHEEEEEEEEZZZZZZZ!!!!!! ENOUGH ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!!! This is starting to sound more and more like the Original Forum!!!!!!!! I thought this Forum was designed to promote helicopter flying - not attack somebody who is offering a very good deal to low time pilots. Okay - so maybe he tried to get some free advertising here. Not quite kosher. But there's a bunch of us guys who really need the service he is providing. It's extremely difficult to get turbine time going the civilian route. The rule is always "You can't fly a turbine unless you've already flown one!" Gomer - we all envy you. You've made it to the top of the heap - we can only watch and drool over the S76. Sounds like you went the military route which I very much admire. But plenty of us low-timers aren't able to do that so we must find some way to get those turbine hours. I've been actively searching the web for over 9 months looking for turbine opportunities and there are very few out there - and none come close to Bossman's. I agree that all students need time in the most common training ships so they can instruct - but getting some relatively inexpensive turbine time in your log book can only be a plus. And not everyone goes the CFI route.

On another thread a member was criticized for offering info about cheap R44 time. We're all supposed to be helping each other with career advancement and useful training info. I look forward to more posts that are supportive, encouraging, and positive.

 

Kevin (no connection to Bossman's company)

Old pilot but not Bold pilot

[Guest rookie101]

Me thinks bossman is starting to dance on the edge here and this thread is beginning to turn more into a advertisment/bashing thread. I will say this however. Mr. Bossman, it has been discussed before that Gomer should get a different job in some other sector of the business, but he really can't afford to do that now can he? He is already at the top of one job and starting off at another job is too risky as he may not be able to carry his seniority with him from this comapny to that company. Many pilot's are but a failed medical away from spinning into a finanial nightmare!! I was at the airport recently speaking to a mech/pilot and he posed the question "Why helicopters?" I said (in a half joking half serious manner) "Because I know to many bored airline pilots!" He responded calmly, "Ya? Well, I know too many broke helicopter pilots..." . I imagine Gomer isn't the only pilot all alone dealing with flyinh helicopters, dealing with operators, and trying to support a family and trying to live a life. Now, we could go on and on for days on end on how operators are greedy, there the devil, etc etc etc, but I don't think the people here in the forum nor the moderators will allow any of that and this bashing and promoting to continue! Please may we stay on topic here!

[bossman]

Me thinks bossman is starting to dance on the edge here and this thread is beginning to turn more into a advertisment/bashing thread. I will say this however. Mr. Bossman, it has been discussed before that Gomer should get a different job in some other sector of the business, but he really can't afford to do that now can he? He is already at the top of one job and starting off at another job is too risky as he may not be able to carry his seniority with him from this comapny to that company. Many pilot's are but a failed medical away from spinning into a finanial nightmare!! I was at the airport recently speaking to a mech/pilot and he posed the question "Why helicopters?" I said (in a half joking half serious manner) "Because I know to many bored airline pilots!" He responded calmly, "Ya? Well, I know too many broke helicopter pilots..." . I imagine Gomer isn't the only pilot all alone dealing with flyinh helicopters, dealing with operators, and trying to support a family and trying to live a life. Now, we could go on and on for days on end on how operators are greedy, there the devil, etc etc etc, but I don't think the people here in the forum nor the moderators will allow any of that and this bashing and promoting to continue! Please may we stay on topic here!

Rookie,

Always on the topic. Trying to live a life. If your life is helicopters, there are many "ups and downs". Helicopters are always my topic. "Let's Fly Helicopters"

[Wesp]

I look at it this way: I'd suggest doing PPL training in a Schweizer 50-60 hours and then on to the Alouette. CFI training probably again in the Schweizer. That would make the new CFI more employable.

 

Unless you're absolutely certain you're going to be employed by this provider, you need to have piston time.

 

The Alouette is a nice helicopter to fly, but wouldn't say it makes the best trainer. However it was used all over the World by the Army as a trainig aircraft (Netherlands, Belgium, France, Germany) amongst others.

 

I do think it's very interesting to offer turbine time for $300 for low time pilots who want some different time. It won't make any difference on the employability however.

[GoodGrief]

@Gomer Pylot:

 

If your company would sponsor foreigners you wouldn't have a problem finding qualified and experienced pilots...

But that seems to be too much an effort in paperwork...

[jehh]

It's extremely difficult to get turbine time going the civilian route. The rule is always "You can't fly a turbine unless you've already flown one!"

 

I don't know who you've been talking to, but that just isn't true. The first company you work for that flies turbines will transition you into them.

[bossman]

I don't know who you've been talking to, but that just isn't true. The first company you work for that flies turbines will transition you into them.

 

We fly turbines.