brushfire21 Posted July 10, 2007 Posted July 10, 2007 Does anybody have any information about the helicopter crash on the Zaca Incident in So.California over the last few days? Heard it "crashed" shortly after take off, or on take off. Just wondering what happened. Quote
justfly Posted July 10, 2007 Posted July 10, 2007 Does anybody have any information about the helicopter crash on the Zaca Incident in So.California over the last few days? Heard it "crashed" shortly after take off, or on take off. Just wondering what happened.http://www.santamariatimes.com/articles/20...news/news01.txt Quote
cptcoma Posted July 10, 2007 Posted July 10, 2007 ...this is from a local news station. The fire is pretty close to us and we were able to see the smoke plume for days now.http://www.ksby.com/Global/story.asp?S=6762221 Quote
brushfire21 Posted July 11, 2007 Author Posted July 11, 2007 Thanks guys for the info. Looks like an S-64 Skycrane from the pics and I am glad everyone was able to walk away from the aircraft. Quote
Goldy Posted July 12, 2007 Posted July 12, 2007 Thanks guys for the info. Looks like an S-64 Skycrane from the pics and I am glad everyone was able to walk away from the aircraft. Roger, Yeah, those two huge turbines are definitely from a big Sikorsky. I do know without hydraulics you crash...you don't fly that large rotor system without em...maybe a possibility?? or dynamic roll over with some contact on the ground. I'm sure NTSB will have a pre lim report out in a day or two. Goldy Quote
brushfire21 Posted July 12, 2007 Author Posted July 12, 2007 It sucks that another machine is lost, and especially another S-64. As I recall one went down last year or the year before in SoCal on another fire. Just glad that no one was seriously hurt. Quote
Goldy Posted July 13, 2007 Posted July 13, 2007 (edited) It sucks that another machine is lost, and especially another S-64. As I recall one went down last year or the year before in SoCal on another fire. Just glad that no one was seriously hurt. Yes it is. They lost one on the fire up in Trinity Forest last year. The good news is Erickson has a skycrane back in VNY now for the fire season...and word is we may get a second one as well as part of a joint County/City contract..we'll see. I just want to fly one for a couple hours...is that too much to ask ?? Just to clarify, neither of these two birds were Ericson Aircranes, but they were both Silorsky S-64's.. Edited July 14, 2007 by Goldy Quote
Goldy Posted July 29, 2007 Posted July 29, 2007 They announced this was definitely mechanical failure somewhere in the rotor system controls..here's the latest video which includes some pix of the downed ship.http://www.kcoy.com/mediacenter/local.aspx...@video.kcoy.com Goldy Quote
Guest rookie101 Posted August 1, 2007 Posted August 1, 2007 I recall two crane crashes and an incident from last years fire season: the first one I remeber the pilot hooked the snorkel on a water tank and tried to take off with the snorkel still attached and he ended up putting it in the dirt, upside down (probably looked like the one in the news article). The second one was an incident were a pilot clipped the side of a cliff while trying to fill up the water tank and tore the tips of the rotor blades all up. The third one I remember is easily the worst as both pilots didn't walk away. I beleive the tail boom seperted when they were trying to fill up the tank. Sucks to see those big beautiful machines in a mangled pill like that and it's even worse when the pilot's don't walk away . Quote
copter doctor Posted August 1, 2007 Posted August 1, 2007 A hydraulic servo pin letting loose is probable cause of crash. I know one of the crew involved and am glad neither was seriously hurt. There are only a few of those birds around and it is a shame to see any bird lost. Quote
Goldy Posted August 1, 2007 Posted August 1, 2007 I recall two crane crashes and an incident from last years fire season: the first one I remeber the pilot hooked the snorkel on a water tank and tried to take off with the snorkel still attached and he ended up putting it in the dirt, upside down I was in that exact ship last week and I have to tell you its gorgeous. Completely rebuilt as the latest Ericson Aircrane...same old instrument panel but everything else is brand new.. Goldy Quote
Goldy Posted August 2, 2007 Posted August 2, 2007 (edited) And where are the pics Goldy? OK Roger, you asked for them, you got it. This particular ship is at VNY as part of the LAFD contract for the summer...here's two pic's.... and here's the NTSB report on the same aircraft. http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=2...01477&key=1 Damn, pictures look so good it makes me want one ! Edited August 2, 2007 by Goldy Quote
brushfire21 Posted August 3, 2007 Author Posted August 3, 2007 Only thing missing is you in the seat! Thanks for the pics and the paint looks friggin fresh as it sounds like it should be. Glad to see its flying again. Quote
FlyNHighNFast Posted August 23, 2007 Posted August 23, 2007 That is just beautiful. I would love to see the pre-flight checklist on that baby. Quote
ADRidge Posted August 23, 2007 Posted August 23, 2007 That is just beautiful. I would love to see the pre-flight checklist on that baby. I was just thinking the same thing... Quote
Goldy Posted August 24, 2007 Posted August 24, 2007 (edited) I was just thinking the same thing... Once again, you asked for it...you kinda got it. Check out the instrument panel here, this gives you some idea of whats involved. I dont fly this giant, but a buddy of mine does. I think he spent an hour with me in the cockpit trying to explain everything...I was like, sure, uh-huh, right, yeah, ok, got it......what the heck does that do again?? Edited August 24, 2007 by Goldy Quote
ADRidge Posted August 24, 2007 Posted August 24, 2007 I think I could preflight an entire R22 before I ran through the startup procedures for that thing! Quote
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