R22 Lease Partners/Timebuilding

[C of G]

So if I have 4000 hrs in helicopters but only 25 in an R22 can I gain the other 25 to meet the 50 SFAR requirement by providing CFII instruction to a rated sole manipulator? How about safety pilot?

 

If you had your awareness training and can act as PIC and had a flight review in the last 12 months in the R22, then I'd say yes you can act as a safety pilot but you cannot conduct CFII instruction.

[air9r]

Hypothetically speaking, I don't think the flight review would be mandatory in R22. A good idea, yes, but required only in helicopters. And, as long as we are splitting hairs, isn't it quirky that you can act as a safety pilot but not instrument instruction, which is a bit different than primary instruction. I suppose the regs are written "will not provide instruction".

 

If you really want to maximize cost savings, in theory, you can cut costs further by milking the safety pilot angle.

[DieselBoy]

Once you reach 50 hours in the R22 you will then need to take a SFAR 73 checkride and get the signoff to be able to instruct in it. The checkride will include "enhanced autos" and may also include a full down. Although a full down is not required, the DPE is authorizing you to give instruction and may want to see that you can do a full down in the R22.

 

You will need 10 hours of dual instruction before you can act as PIC, which isn't enough to make you an adequate CFI. I would not recommend using the other 40 hours just burning holes in the sky solo when you could be getting more dual instruction and better preparing you. You will also have to teach the SFAR 73 ground lesson.

Edited March 16, 2012 by DieselBoy

[air9r]

I'm only talking theory here. I haven't flown an R22 in years & I'm not aware of any Groupon deals with four pilots with spreadsheets looking to squeeze the most flight hours for the least $.

 

Its a good thread because it covers some of the less thought of factors like weather, unexpected mx, scheduling, weekends, partners dropping out.

 

Its interesting what you can do in theory versus reality. Its interesting what you can do legally that isn't smart.

 

How many pilots have you met that scrape to get the license then can't afford to fly?

 

I think the theory here is meeting minimums to get that job that pays the rest of the way. We used to break into the simulator room late at night when I was in college and steal time on a twin engine Navajo. I learned a lot about flying but didn't dare log it in case I got caught and had to pay the $125 per hour hobbs time