NYT article about Helicopters over LA

[Karl]

LA

[Tenacious T]

Interesting how they only complain about the helicopters and not the celebrity neighbors drawing all the unwanted attention.

[gary-mike]

I'm sure there are plenty realtors that would be happy to help them find a quieter place to live.

 

On the other hand, there are ways to fly quieter and more sensitive to those on the ground. Pilots should follow the "Fly Neighborly guide" (from HAI)Fly neighborly when possible to avoid implimentation of local restrictions.

[iRotor]

People are amazing! I do my best to 'fly neighborly' But some people should not have the right to complain. LA county has nearly 10 Million people living in it. If you don't LOVE noise, don't live there! It's like moving to the moon and complaining about the lack of atmosphere. LA pilots, you have my sympathy.

[Darren Hughes]

I agree with all of the above statements, but you have to admit though, that that pilot, Jimenez guy they interviewed is a terrible ambassador for our industry. By saying this;

"People don't understand what's really going on," he said. "They really can't do anything. I could buzz you as long as I keep my distance. We are legal. They don't control the air space. These are the things we have to do to make a living."

, he will just cause people on the ground to push harder back against us. And they can, just like over here on the East coast, they can take control of what we do by controlling our facilities on the ground with local ordinances, without ever having to go federal and changing the FAR's.

 

It's time to talk to those people, rather than telling them that there's nothing they can do.

[rotorhead8]

here is the facebook page all of this originated from.

 

https://www.facebook.com/MediaHelicopters

 

 

and heres a video i found on the moderator of that page! haha

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zA1hyqA6UTY

[rotorwashed]

what baffles me even more are the people who live in NYC that complain about helicopters. really!? amidst the sirens, taxis honking, deafening trains rolling by, and screaming methheads, your complaining about the helicopter noise thats gone in 15 seconds? I understand noise complaints from houses in the suburbs that have r22's buzzing them over the same route every 10 minutes, but NYC or LA? STFU or GTFO with your noise complaints

[heli.pilot]

I agree with all of the above statements, but you have to admit though, that that pilot, Jimenez guy they interviewed is a terrible ambassador for our industry. By saying this; , he will just cause people on the ground to push harder back against us. And they can, just like over here on the East coast, they can take control of what we do by controlling our facilities on the ground with local ordinances, without ever having to go federal and changing the FAR's.

 

It's time to talk to those people, rather than telling them that there's nothing they can do.

 

I agree, Jimenez sounds like a real winner.

 

Not sure that I believe these guys are flying at 100' AGL and 90 degree bank though. I'm also not sure that I'd call this "unregulated industry" either. No, we don't have minimum altitudes to adhere to, but "unregulated" is just inaccurate. The general public reads this stuff and it just eggs them on.

 

We do need to be good neighbors, or we WILL lose the relative freedom we now enjoy.

[gary-mike]

These complaining people have the $ to get someones attention. I just hope they realize what they should focus on, and target only that realm of operators... The BP type, (and no not the oil industry) I think the poparazzi pilots seem to be the invasive ones (well obviously). If that isn't enough, ground the news, fire, and LE flights for awhile and they will be screeming to have them birds back in the air in no time.

 

I imagine most pilots are already flying neighborly, probably don't include the ones taking pictures of those that didn't request a photo-op though.

[Hang'em High]

This was my favorite quote in the article.... Picture a snivelling little rich dude with a poodle in his lap and a manicure when he was interviewed for the article:

 

"...a helicopter clacked loudly over the Hollywood Bowl at the very moment Gustavo Dudamel was leading the Los Angeles Philharmonic through the adagio in the overture to Mozart’s “Abduction From the Seraglio.”

 

The Hollywood "BAWL" people always complain. They complain about the media ships, fire, law enforcement, etc.... That's what they get for building an ampitheater right next to bustling Hollywood and the 101 freeway!!!!!

 

To all the complainers that don't like the helicopters flying by the Hollywood sign, I say MOVE THEN!!!!!!! Knowing your going to live right next to a WORLDLY KNOWN HISTORICAL LANDMARK such as the Hollywood sign, without realizing that fans from all over want to see it every day is your own stupid fault!!!!!

 

Care for a little cheese with that "Whine?"

[jimbo2181]

True story...

 

Working at hospital a man comes in. Starts out saying "6 months ago you picked up my son returning from college on XXX Interstate. You probably saved his life. Thank you so much. Also I live 6 blocks to the north and you fly over my house a lot. Could you please try and avoid that."

 

Quote is appended and not exact but is the basics of his point.

 

People are unbelievable.

[Shaun]

When I was in LA I could barely hear the gunshots over the noise of the traffic.

[Goldy]

I agree, Jimenez sounds like a real winner.

 

Not sure that I believe these guys are flying at 100' AGL and 90 degree bank though. I'm also not sure that I'd call this "unregulated industry" either. No, we don't have minimum altitudes to adhere to, but "unregulated" is just inaccurate. The general public reads this stuff and it just eggs them on.

 

We do need to be good neighbors, or we WILL lose the relative freedom we now enjoy.

 

I was flying Estebans ship on Sunday so I know him a bit. All I can say is he feels he was set up. The quotes were made, but not in the context they were written in. As far as flying neighborly, we all have to do what we can to minimize our impact or we will lose what we have now. heli.pilot said it well.

[Heliboss]

"It isn't often that a writer of superlative skills knows enough about flying to write well about it."

 

— the New York Times.

[Shaun]

"It isn't often that a writer of superlative skills knows enough about flying to write well about it."

 

— the New York Times.

 

Man, my law teacher related the story of a passenger injured on a commercial airline flight due to turbulence. During the trial they called an "expert" witness, a commercial pilot with low hours. But to the jury he was a professional.

 

He showed how the lifted K index was bad in the general area of the flight and explained how the captain should have known.

 

The plaintiff won.