mechanic Posted August 2, 2007 Posted August 2, 2007 Thanks for all the clarification. Even with 20 years of mechanic experiance I can still make a mistake! I was thinking Power Train in my thought process, not just the power plant only. Why would the fan/cage/impeller what ever you want to call it, not be part of the power plant? A water pump is part of a power plant. Is it because its not integrel to the block? Thanksmechanic Quote
RotorWeed Posted August 2, 2007 Posted August 2, 2007 Thanks for all the clarification. Even with 20 years of mechanic experiance I can still make a mistake! I was thinking Power Train in my thought process, not just the power plant only. Why would the fan/cage/impeller what ever you want to call it, not be part of the power plant? A water pump is part of a power plant. Is it because its not integrel to the block? Thanksmechanic For the same reason a propeller, transmission, generator, or pulley sheave is not part of the power plant. They are all bolted to the output shaft of the power plant. RW Quote
mechanic Posted August 2, 2007 Posted August 2, 2007 For the same reason a propeller, transmission, generator, or pulley sheave is not part of the power plant. They are all bolted to the output shaft of the power plant. RW I knew that answer was coming! But, I see that the aviation aircooled engines doesn't come factory with a cooling system. So they depend on an outside source. All the aircooled and water cooled engines I service come with the system installed as a unit from the factory and is considered part of the engine. Esp on all the aircooled outdoor power utility engines. The engines I work on would be the direct drive type. But the power train is in-direct on the majority of the machines. I do have a little freak of an eng/trans combination that, the engine and trans share the same oil/filter, and the engine has no oil pan because it sits on the top case of the hydrostatic transaxle, . They can have an electric clutch, friction clutch, sheave/belt, or driveshaft off the crank pto side or the flywheel side, turning a hydrostatic trans, hydorstatic transaxle, gear type transmission, or gear type transaxle to name a few diff ways I see daily. This year has been the worst year on the job, stress wise, and I have been there 13 years. I need a vacation, but can't take one due to my company being so busy, and the family has decided to go on one with out me to her sisters in FL, . I hope I didn't make anyone mad with the questions. Later Quote
Gomer Pylot Posted August 2, 2007 Posted August 2, 2007 Anyone who get mad because someone asked questions can safely be ignored. Quote
james28 Posted August 3, 2007 Posted August 3, 2007 thanks for asking mechanic, i learned something new! Quote
Jeff Posted August 5, 2007 Posted August 5, 2007 The Cessna 421 has gear drive engines also. Another example of non-direct drive. On the same topic, are turbine engines equipped with gear reduction outputs? It seems to me that they would be based on their internal RPMs of 20,000 +. Jeff Quote
apiaguy Posted August 6, 2007 Posted August 6, 2007 yes, the geared engines on the 421 are the Continental GTSIO-520 that I mentioned in the earlier post... Turbine engines with a reduction gearbox are called "turbo-prop" or "turbo-shaft" engines.... the output gearbox shaft is reduced to a reasonable rpm depending on the installation, airplane or helicopter.Turbine engines on jets do not have reduction gearboxes... they are called "turbo-jet" or "turbo-fan" engines depending on their configuration and the air flowing thru them pushes the aircraft instead of being converted to power to drive a gearbox or propeller. Quote
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