1badz32 Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090222/ap_on_...prison_escape_3 Quote
Sparker Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 This is the sort of thing you think you'd only see in the movies. I think its actually very fascinating. Quote
heli.pilot Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 Seriously?! Not once, but twice they escaped by helicopter?? It can't be that hard to shoot down a hovering helicopter! Quote
West Coaster Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 Had almost the exact same thing happen near Vancouver many years ago. Someone chartered the helicopter and pulled a gun on the pilot and told him to land in the prison yard or die. If I remember the story correctly, once on the ground the guards shot the crap out of the helicopter and disabled it. Not 100% sure that's how it ended though. Quote
jfcorey Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 This is the sort of thing you think you'd only see in the movies. I think its actually very fascinating. I agree, I'm trying to find some better pictures that show the punctured fuel tank. Quote
jfcorey Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 here's a video! http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=da8_1235384397 Quote
1badz32 Posted February 23, 2009 Author Posted February 23, 2009 here's a video! http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=da8_1235384397 Awsome! you can hear the gaurds shooting thier service pistols. Quote
1badz32 Posted February 23, 2009 Author Posted February 23, 2009 This is the sort of thing you think you'd only see in the movies. I think its actually very fascinating. My buddy and I were talking about what we thought it would take to successfully pull off a job at a bank or even a casino....My idea's were along this same line, granted it was more or less taken from the movie "3000 miles to grace land". where the robbers have a 212 pick them up on the roof top after making their shoot out getaway. Quote
jehh Posted February 24, 2009 Posted February 24, 2009 Police and security are prepared to stop normal criminals in cars, not an organized crew with automatic weapons and helicopters. The question is, can you take enough money in that short a period of time, carry it by hand to the roof, to make it worth it. Even if you steal the helicopter (another challenge), you need someone who can fly it willing to commit such a crime. Then you have to make sure a crew of 4 to 6 guys doesn't talk or turn on each other, then you have to get away with it. 3000 Miles to Graceland is a campy movie, but not serious. I doubt the casino cages are that easy to walk into, or walk out of, and I would imagine it is harder to get to the roof than that. Then again, who would have thought that you could break the same guy out of a prison, twice, using a helicopter, and get away with it both times? So what do I know?!? Quote
TimW68 Posted February 24, 2009 Posted February 24, 2009 Ok assume the pilots innocent (way to much invested), it's really well executed down to the IFR conditions. Convincing the Pilot by whatever means given the people involved is not so far fetched. Also given the scenario above about past flights, doubt it would raise much of an eyebrow being routed in proximity to their objective. I would hope that perimeter guards with weapons would have a clue as to how to disable the helicopter. No need to kill the Pilot !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote
1badz32 Posted February 24, 2009 Author Posted February 24, 2009 My older brother works as a security gaurd at a prison. He said they wouldnt be allowed to shoot at the hovering helicopter... (I assume one that has landed in the court yard would be a different storey.) Which is understandible, once dissabled, where is it gunna crash? on the nabors house, or maybe the elementry school down the block.When he sits in the towers along the perimeter fence, they sit with an A/R 15 and a 12ga shotty for armorment. Quote
Justin DBC Posted February 26, 2009 Posted February 26, 2009 Now... I've never worked in a Greek prison before, but you would think that they would put those guys in isolation so they wouldn't have access to the yard after the first time the escaped in the exact same manner. If American correctional officers were that stupid, I'd start robbing banks too! Quote
1badz32 Posted February 26, 2009 Author Posted February 26, 2009 I'd start robbing banks too! You dont actually have to "robb the bank" you just need to pick up the boys after they do all the dirty work. When the cops show up just say "they held me at gun point". If you can hook up with some mobbsters, i bet they'll pay good money to "charter" your heli. If nothing else you'd have a corner on the market. Quote
EAGLE1 Posted February 26, 2009 Posted February 26, 2009 Maybe crime does pay..... Here is a related article on the guard. http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090226/od_uk_...greece_escape_3 Quote
Justin DBC Posted February 27, 2009 Posted February 27, 2009 You dont actually have to "robb the bank" you just need to pick up the boys after they do all the dirty work. When the cops show up just say "they held me at gun point". If you can hook up with some mobbsters, i bet they'll pay good money to "charter" your heli. If nothing else you'd have a corner on the market. I think I'd rather risk robbing the bank. I have a feeling that the mobsters would much rather shoot me in the face after I was finished than pay me and have a potential witness Quote
tiercel Posted February 27, 2009 Posted February 27, 2009 Police and security are prepared to stop normal criminals in cars, not an organized crew with automatic weapons and helicopters. The question is, can you take enough money in that short a period of time, carry it by hand to the roof, to make it worth it. Even if you steal the helicopter (another challenge), you need someone who can fly it willing to commit such a crime. Then you have to make sure a crew of 4 to 6 guys doesn't talk or turn on each other, then you have to get away with it. 3000 Miles to Graceland is a campy movie, but not serious. I doubt the casino cages are that easy to walk into, or walk out of, and I would imagine it is harder to get to the roof than that. Then again, who would have thought that you could break the same guy out of a prison, twice, using a helicopter, and get away with it both times? So what do I know?!? I would totally do this if I could log it as PIC turbine time. Do you think they have time building rates? Quote
1badz32 Posted February 27, 2009 Author Posted February 27, 2009 I think I'd rather risk robbing the bank. I have a feeling that the mobsters would much rather shoot me in the face after I was finished than pay me and have a potential witness meh, maybe.. then they'll have to get rid of a body, and find another experianced pilot to do their dirtty work, i cant imagine many pilots that are willing to get shot at while springing mobsters out of the clink. just my 0.02$ Quote
Justin DBC Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 I would totally do this if I could log it as PIC turbine time. Do you think they have time building rates? I'd fly a hungry lion around the Congo if I could log it as PIC turbine time. We're such hour whores. meh, maybe.. then they'll have to get rid of a body, and find another experianced pilot to do their dirtty work, i cant imagine many pilots that are willing to get shot at while springing mobsters out of the clink. just my 0.02$ On the contrary.... I think there are plenty of pilots who are as in debt as me from paying for flight school to be won over by such an offer. Or at least ones who value their knee caps Quote
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