Football TFR?

[eagle5]

If a late night football game puts a TFR over my airport when the tower is closed, do I have to call ATC to come in for pattern work, or can I just use the CTAF?

[Azhigher]

The TFR should say whats allowed inside the TFR and who to ask to get in.

[aeroscout]

Generally speaking TFRs preclude pattern work at airports under the TFR footprint. Depending on the TFR, only departures and arrivals may be allowed.

[eagle5]

Generally speaking TFRs preclude pattern work at airports under the TFR footprint. Depending on the TFR, only departures and arrivals may be allowed.

 

Where does it say that?

[eagle5]

The TFR should say whats allowed inside the TFR and who to ask to get in.

 

With regular TFRs yeah, but I've never seen one posted for sporting events, and a lot of times Flight Service doesn't even know there's a game on when I call for a briefing?

[Spike]

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[Gomer Pylot]

Don't rely on FSS for essential information. Since it was privatized, you're talking to someone in a cubicle in Minnesota or someplace, hired last week, who knows little or nothing about aviation. I've stopped bothering with FSS entirely, because the service is essentially useless. I can get far more information far more easily from online sources. Back when FSS had actual people who were based locally, and knew their area, it was a great asset, but not today.