Sparker Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 (edited) I am getting ready to start training, and I wanted to get a head start on learning the communication language in flight. I am looking for any suggestions on good ways to learn all the lingo, and I was thinking about some of the DVDS from sporty's, but they are for fixed wing and I don't know if that will still apply (not to mention $50 a pop). If anybody has any of the used DVDs that were helpful I would be more than happy to pay for them plus shipping. PM me or sparkerjc@gmail.com (I check my email more often) Thanks, Steve Edited February 1, 2007 by Sparker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
67november Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 Hey Sparker, welcome aboard.I've been using a multi-band radio to listen to my local airport, have learned quite abit just listening to the local traffic as they fly around. a radio can be had for bout $50. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james28 Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 that's a good idea, never thought of that 67. i would suggest looking in the faq for books, rather than dvds, on piloting. i bought a couple and a lot of them have a glossary with important, common, abbreviated, and slang terms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PA Pilot Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 I am looking for any suggestions on good ways to learn all the lingo, and I was thinking about some of the DVDS from sporty's, but they are for fixed wing and I don't know if that will still apply (not to mention $50 a pop).There's really not much difference between rotary and fixed wing as far as radio work goes. We make the same calls that they do except that our destinations on the field may be different. If you learn the fixed wing comm you won't have much more to add to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldy Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 Sparker- yes get a handheld radio or scanner and start listening, or check out www.liveatc.net or attend the most recent AOPA communications seminar, which is free, and all over the US..their website is www.aopa.org Good luck, Goldy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Witch Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 I PM'd an article you might find interesting. I forgot from where I swiped it. It gives mostly tower/ATC stuff. The main thing though is to know what you need to say before you key the mic. Even that's no guarantee you'll say it right or screw something up. I have a tendancy to stutter at times and it makes for interesting transmissions. Just yesterday I stuttered and a guy flying a crop duster said something along the lines of 'That's Ok, you'll get it one of these days'. I've even messed up my tail number on occasion. So, if you screw up, don't worry about it, fix it, and go on. Later Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Turbue Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 A friend of mine found "Say Again, please" ($20) to be quite helpful. There's also a multimedia package to it, although quite pricy ($80 ) Here's the link to them at sporty's: http://www.sportys.com/pilotshop/pages/sea...amp;x=0&y=0 Amazon and eBay might have it much cheaper (ahhh, eBay ). But there are also free online tutorials, e.g. this one at AOPA: http://flash.aopa.org/asf/sayIntentions/They also offer free seminars, as this one about radio communications: http://www.aopa.org/asf/product/radio.html Hope, this gives you a couple of hints, Cheers,Lance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostHeliBoy Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 buy the radio and a FARAIM... LOOK up pilot controller glossary... and Repeat... CHEER! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joker Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 Try this thread. Joker http://helicopterforum.verticalreference.com/helicopterfor...ic=4488&hl= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Autorotator Posted May 1, 2007 Report Share Posted May 1, 2007 I'm not positive on this but I was lead to believe "Say Again Please" was more along the lines of flying IFR. That's all I got to say about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenacious T Posted May 1, 2007 Report Share Posted May 1, 2007 I'm not positive on this but I was lead to believe "Say Again Please" was more along the lines of flying IFR. That's all I got to say about that.Nope, I bought a copy recently at the used book store, it covers a broad spectrum of airspace an flying situations. It's pretty cool, don't know if it's worth $20 though, I got it for 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyby_heli Posted May 1, 2007 Report Share Posted May 1, 2007 I am looking for any suggestions on good ways to learn all the lingo,Steve.... Go to your local Blockbuster and rent the movie "Airplane!" (1980)..... They have all the lingo you'll ever need! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spencer Posted May 1, 2007 Report Share Posted May 1, 2007 also try this link http://www.liveatc.net/feedindex.php?type=class-b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLorax Posted May 2, 2007 Report Share Posted May 2, 2007 (edited) Flyby, surley you didnt mean to say that...... -i did! and dont call me Shirley. PS, thanks Goldy for the link to the live Air Traffic Control feeds. im going to play this through headphones and into my brain while i sleep tonight. just kidding. this is awesome though. what is everyone ending their transmission with? their tail #? Edited May 2, 2007 by TheLorax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Witch Posted May 2, 2007 Report Share Posted May 2, 2007 Yup, Tail number. Later Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldy Posted May 2, 2007 Report Share Posted May 2, 2007 Flyby, surley you didnt mean to say that......-i did! and dont call me Shirley. PS, thanks Goldy for the link to the live Air Traffic Control feeds. im going to play this through headphones and into my brain while i sleep tonight. just kidding. this is awesome though. what is everyone ending their transmission with? their tail #? Lorax- its their tail number OR partial tail number. When you make initial call you drop the "N" number in place you state type of aircraft..so N12345 becomes Mooney 12345 or in our case "Helicopter 123Hotel Sierra". IF ATC has other aircraft with similar sounding call signs they will call you by the entire string of numbers and you call back with the entire string. IF however, ATC calls you back with just the last three digits..ie. 3 Hotel Sierra, then you can call yourself by the same, 3 Hotel Sierra. Hope that you didnt already know this...otherwise I'm wasting my time writing!! BTW- If you listen to Burbank/Van Nuys on www.liveatc.net you can hear the bird I fly occasionally. N838MC...or just "Helicopter 8 Mike Charlie"..make sense ? Fly safe, Goldy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zemogman Posted May 2, 2007 Report Share Posted May 2, 2007 The book..."Say Again Please" is pretty good. I've read about 75% of it and it is not just for IFR...however I'm noticing quickly that there is nothing that will fully prepare you for all those voices...other than experience. Most of which...I cannot understand...other than the tower....who seems to be very tolerant and understanding with students. Just a thought... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLorax Posted May 2, 2007 Report Share Posted May 2, 2007 (edited) goldy, yeah i kind of knew that but you clarified it for me. i think i either read something about it last night in a post or saw it in the private pilot test prep book. half of the time i cant understand anything at all that the pilots are saying, like zemogman said. ill definitely check out your airport. also, i found out that i can listen to the streaming radio calls from my phone. i actually was listening to boston departures last night before i went to sleep Edited May 2, 2007 by TheLorax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FUSE Posted May 3, 2007 Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 who seems to be very tolerant and understanding with students. And to add to that note, don't hesitate to say your a student pilot, especially on your first couple solo's. Sort of sets the tone so everyone else is more helpful... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zemogman Posted May 3, 2007 Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 "Wilco..." Thanks FUSE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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