Air Logistics Minimums

[Chi-town]

Air Logistics advertises 135 minimums for applicants. Will they take you seriously at 500 hours for PIC positions?

 

Any info on this would be appreciated.

[nsdqjr]

Air Logistics advertises 135 minimums for applicants. Will they take you seriously at 500 hours for PIC positions?

 

Any info on this would be appreciated.

 

At the moment, no, they will not. They're still looking for that 1000 PIC.

[james28]

maybe copilot?

[nsdqjr]

maybe copilot?

 

So far no SIC stuff available at Airlog; however, at heliexpo the PHI guys were talking about hiring new SIC's at 500 hours. I'm not sure of the time frame.

[FLHooker]

I've heard rumor that some of the companies down in the GOM will take some (at their descretion) military pilots below the minimums with an insurance waiver. Anyone know of any thruth to that??

 

 

 

CHAD

[cg1641]

Will any companies take you in the gulf without an instrument ticket? Or does anyone have a suggestion on 1,500 hours-no instrument on where to start looking for a job outside of instructing? Any advice would be appreciated.

[Gunner]

I've heard rumor that some of the companies down in the GOM will take some (at their descretion) military pilots below the minimums with an insurance waiver. Anyone know of any thruth to that??

CHAD

 

I know a guy that went to Air Log back in Dec 06. He had 1200 or so hours. I asked him if he was going to get a SIC position in a twin and he said that the Air Log folks like their pilots to have some real world time as a PIC in a 206 first.

 

That's just what I heard from a guy that currently works there....

[arotrhd]

A friend of mine is working AirLog Alaska as 412 captain out of Dead Horse/Prudhoe Bay. He mentioned that SIC requirments (in AK) may be loosening. Not too long ago (fall?), they brought in a young chopper chick with ~500 hrs. She had some instruction time and an instrument ticket and is right seat on a 412, 2/2 schedule. She might have had contacts, maybe not. Alaska is fertile ground for pilots with good skills and good attitudes; another one of my friends just picked up a 350 out of LA recently for utility work in AK, a second helo following another 350 he acquired that was almost up to the sticks in the last frontier. His comment over dinner: I can't get enough helos for contracts up there or enough qualified pilots or techs. He expects to keep doubling in size for the next couple of years and is merging his helo & fixed wing operations. I'll post more when I have further qualified information.

 

-WATCH FOR THE WIRES-

[Gomer Pylot]

The required time may be getting lower, as the available pool gets smaller, but AFAIK nobody in the GOM will hire anyone without an instrument ticket. An ATP is certainly preferred. Most of this is customer driven, with the major oil companies requiring the instrument rating even for 206 drivers. And there is no chance at all to fly any medium without an instrument ticket.

[HH60Pilot]

Air Logistics advertises 135 minimums for applicants. Will they take you seriously at 500 hours for PIC positions?

 

Any info on this would be appreciated.

 

I know of a couple of pilots that AirLog has picked up with less than 1,000 hours. The company would still prefer to see 1,000 hours, but if the canididate meets the qualifications and does well during the interview process, then the company will probably extend an offer.

 

Doug

[KMWK]

I'm guessing you are with Air Log Doug? Any new word about whether Era still intends to buy them out?

 

Gary

[Bristol]

I know of a couple of pilots that AirLog has picked up with less than 1,000 hours. The company would still prefer to see 1,000 hours, but if the canididate meets the qualifications and does well during the interview process, then the company will probably extend an offer.

 

Doug

 

What do they pay out there, maybe around $50K / yr? Maybe some expenses too?

[Fly for food]

PHI certainly has looked recently for pilots with between 500 and 750 hours for IHTI to act as co-pilot in their aircraft.

In general you will need 1000 onmly to meet the current requirement to go on your own in the aircraft. Some people may not like the idea of flying the jetranger or the 407 on their own - but the experience you gain is invaluable, and you won't have to wait that long before getting into a medium ship as an SIC.

An instrument ticket is going to be required in the gulf. If you don't have one, try exploring the grand canyon options or maybe even the tours in New York etc.

 

I find it unlikely that ERA will be buying out Air Log as Air Log is now a wholly owned subsidary of Bristow - a large enough corporation already. No way SEACOR (era) has enough money to buy out Bristow.

 

ATP's are only required for PIC of medium or heavy ships - though a bonus is paid to those with a helicopter ATP before they get to that stage at PHI.

 

I would imagine that AirLog would have the hardest time letting a low time guy into SIC positions, because they are 100% union controlled, bidding for these jobs internally will be based on your seniority with the company.

 

Hope that helps,

 

FFF

[Hawk Driver]

Sounds like there are a lot of good jobs opening up down at the gulf. I am hoping to get on with PHI when I return form Iraq. I will only have about 750 hours though but, I do have my instrument ticket so, I've got that going for me. Does anyone know anyone that has gotten on with Phi or any other company for that matter with about the same hours as I have? Thanks Gents!

[Mixmaster]

Be careful what you ask for. I know some guys who went to the GOm at sub 1000 hrs and ended up flying SIC for less than 10 hrs a month in some cases. Could take a long time to get to a PIC seat. Plus a lot of older guys giving you a hard time while that is happening! They dont like the new guys cutting corners that they could not cut. Just try to take your lumps like everyone else and get you 1000hrs instructing. If nothing else Instructing is very character building. Nothing like having someone try to kill you on a daily basis!

 

Fly Safe

BEN

[klmmarine]

PHI certainly has looked recently for pilots with between 500 and 750 hours for IHTI to act as co-pilot in their aircraft.

In general you will need 1000 onmly to meet the current requirement to go on your own in the aircraft. Some people may not like the idea of flying the jetranger or the 407 on their own - but the experience you gain is invaluable, and you won't have to wait that long before getting into a medium ship as an SIC.

 

I find it unlikely that ERA will be buying out Air Log as Air Log is now a wholly owned subsidary of Bristow - a large enough corporation already. No way SEACOR (era) has enough money to buy out Bristow.

 

If you need 1000 hours to PIC solo in 206s or 407s, but you move up to SIC in mediums from there where do they put pilots below 1000 as SIC. Do they have them fly SIC in 206s and 407s?

 

Don't be so sure about SEACOR. As a former marine division employee I can say from experience that they have VERY deep pockets, and LOTS of assets that they could liquidate if they REALLY wanted to buy a company like Bristow.

[Gomer Pylot]

Exxon, and possibly some other companies later, has decided to require 2 pilots in small ships. Very little payload left, but at least it's 'safe'. Since the second pilot is not required by regulation, he/she can be anyone with any amount of time, as long as the customer agrees. This second pilot is going to be paid peanuts, I think. He's basically there to take the controls if the PIC has a heart attack or is otherwise disabled in flight. This does not happen every day.

[TheLorax]

i heard that a good way to get a job with airlog or one of those other main companies is to become a student at one of their affiliated schools? i was told to get my PPL and then try and transfer to an affiliated school; skip the CFI route. i may be incorrect, please correct me as this is my main goal right now.

[Mixmaster]

i heard that a good way to get a job with airlog or one of those other main companies is to become a student at one of their affiliated schools? i was told to get my PPL and then try and transfer to an affiliated school; skip the CFI route. i may be incorrect, please correct me as this is my main goal right now.

Dont know of anyone who has gone that route. You still need 500 hrs for the 135 regs anyway. I was under the impression that Bristow bought HAI because it was a strong business and it gave them access to training facilities for their current pilots and ready access to 1000 hr CFII's. One of the biggest impedaments to sub 1000hrs pilots in the gulf is the Customers insurance requirments, they often need great hrs than the helicopter companies need. this is in part because the operators (oil CO's) in the gulf are cheap scates and will look for any way to cut cost.

Good Luck

Fly Safe

 

BEN

[TheLorax]

ok thanks

[Bristol]

I know of a couple of pilots that AirLog has picked up with less than 1,000 hours. The company would still prefer to see 1,000 hours, but if the canididate meets the qualifications and does well during the interview process, then the company will probably extend an offer.

 

Doug

 

Doug, if you're out there, I'm sure you're still reading the forums.. are you watching the news too?

 

http://cbs13.com/consumer/local_story_138003256.html

[Bayou06]

If you need 1000 hours to PIC solo in 206s or 407s, but you move up to SIC in mediums from there where do they put pilots below 1000 as SIC. Do they have them fly SIC in 206s and 407s?

 

Don't be so sure about SEACOR. As a former marine division employee I can say from experience that they have VERY deep pockets, and LOTS of assets that they could liquidate if they REALLY wanted to buy a company like Bristow.

 

 

Man, LOL, buying out Bristow. Really don't think they could. Ever see the financials on Bristow?