Z32MadMan Posted June 26, 2007 Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 Interesting video I found on youtube.Sorry if its a repost, but I haven't seen it on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeio540 Posted June 26, 2007 Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 Wow that's pretty crazy, but I wouldn't argue. I'd even set out to one of those dinky 1 ft deep kid pools out in my back yard to see that up close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gft Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 That was pretty cool! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delorean Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 Anyone ever seen the one like that where the helicopter is using a hotel's rooftop pool to fill his bambi bucket (somewhere in Mexico or South America)?? About the third or fourth time he gets too low and sticks his TR in the fence and ends up in the pool. If you ever go through Bell Helicopter's HeliProps training, you'll see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelliBoy Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 Anyone ever seen the one like that where the helicopter is using a hotel's rooftop pool to fill his bambi bucket (somewhere in Mexico or South America)?? About the third or fourth time he gets too low and sticks his TR in the fence and ends up in the pool. If you ever go through Bell Helicopter's HeliProps training, you'll see it. Yeah, I think it was in Spain. Killed an innocent bystander with the t/r. completely unecessary and foolish. If you're going to get water from a swimming pool, have the FD send someone to keep people away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusty Old Dude Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 Yeah, I think it was in Spain. Killed an innocent bystander with the t/r. completely unecessary and foolish. If you're going to get water from a swimming pool, have the FD send someone to keep people away.When I watched the pool usage, I thought the very same thing...danger of power lines, etc. The pool in the original post looks like a pretty good candidate for doing what they are doing, but I'd agree that it would seem like a last resort vs. a lake, pond, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmerryman Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 Yeah, I think it was in Spain. Killed an innocent bystander with the t/r. completely unecessary and foolish. If you're going to get water from a swimming pool, have the FD send someone to keep people away. I think I found the clip - part of a compilation at 1:46 in: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jY8gASTk4qc&NR=1 - bad bad bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSixOne Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 Is it legal to 'steal' water from people's pools? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinR Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 I don't see the slightest problem in the video or using that pool. There's lots of space around, enough power to lift the pucket clear of surrounding opstacles before getting forward speed... Looks just fine to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAC Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 doesn't the chlorine in the pool make the fire worse? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayou06 Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 Although I don't see any problem taking water for a fire from a pool, obvious caution must be applied. The approach must be similar to a confined area approach. The first one certainly appeared as if the pilot had been to that pool a number of times. He certainly looked confident on his approach and departure with a bucket load of water. But on the second video compilation, the B206 coming in on approach and striking his T/R on the fence was just, bad judgement. Why make the approach perpendicular to the obstacle, when he could have come in lengthwise with the pool and avoided the worse of the hazards? If he had wind to contend with, the worse he could have had was a cross wind. Just my observation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brushfire21 Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 doesn't the chlorine in the pool make the fire worse? At some point, a HIGH chlorine percentage to water solution could cause a problem. But at a few parts-per-million its not an issue. Have used pool water many times here and haven't seen any problems yet (from a ground pounders POV!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Witch Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 I wonder how long it would take for a crane to empty that pool? Just a thought. Later Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brushfire21 Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 Lets do a little math! From the video and looking up an AS350 (just for some rough specs) and doing a half ass visual comparison, I am going to say the pool is around 20'x50'x5' avg depth (3-8'ft range). 20'x50x'5' = 5000 cubic feet5000 x 7.48 (gallons in a cubic foot) = 37,400 gallons in the pool 37,400 gallons----------------- = Aprox 14 drops until empty!!!!!!2,640 gallons per drop (S-64 per Erickson Spec's) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusty Old Dude Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 Lets do a little math! From the video and looking up an AS350 (just for some rough specs) and doing a half ass visual comparison, I am going to say the pool is around 20'x50'x5' avg depth (3-8'ft range). 20'x50x'5' = 5000 cubic feet5000 x 7.48 (gallons in a cubic foot) = 37,400 gallons in the pool 37,400 gallons----------------- = Aprox 14 drops until empty!!!!!!2,640 gallons per drop (S-64 per Erickson Spec's)A pool we built in AZ measured about 30 x 14 feet, and contained roughly 17,000 gallons of water. A standard Arizona pool (small, kidney-bean shaped play pool) is about 12-15,000 gallons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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