IFLY Posted October 6, 2010 Posted October 6, 2010 Looks like some schools are going to have a hard time finding students soon. Found this on Aero-Net.com Jerry European Pilots Who Earned Licenses And Ratings in The U.S. Would Be Required To Obtain European LicencesIn a move termed "disastrous" by IAOPA, the EASA has proposed rules which will make it impossible for European citizens to fly in Europe on American licences, render worthless the FAA Instrument Rating and, IAOPA says, blow the bottom out of the market in N-registered aircraft. If they are adopted, the plans will force thousands of pilots to undertake new training courses costing millions of euros and further damage the already-depressed used aircraft market with no real benefit to safety. Quote
Trans Lift Posted October 6, 2010 Posted October 6, 2010 In all fairness, it is not like you can work as a pilot in Europe on an FAA cert anyway. You have to convert to a JAA CPL/IR. It would probably only apply to PPL pilots and they might make it an easy conversion such as an air law written exam and a flight test, which in my opinion should be made necessary anyway! Quote
500E Posted October 6, 2010 Posted October 6, 2010 "It would render FAA pilot certificates and instrument ratings issued to pilots living and operating in Europe (including U.S. citizens based in and flying in Europe) effectively worthless, requiring them to essentially start over and retrain.Not just licences but N reg aircraft will be affected Quote
IFLY Posted October 6, 2010 Author Posted October 6, 2010 It sounds like they won't even count your FAA flight time. In the UK for your instrument you only need to pass 7 writtens and a check ride after getting the required flight time of instruction in a G reg acft with a UK flight instructor, just like you never had an instrument rating...and this is solely in the name of flight safety. Jerry Quote
Trans Lift Posted October 6, 2010 Posted October 6, 2010 Well, technically you need to pass 14 exams, before you get to do your Instrument rating. It is true that only 7 of them are for the IR but you still need to do all of them to get hire-able. Not only that but you will pretty much have to do your IR in a multi-engine aircraft. For example, with Bond Air Services, you would do it in an EC 135. There was a discount for having an FAA IR but without it, it costs approximately 35,000 - 40,000 pounds($55,000-$65,000). Ridiculous really. I didn't think that there was that many flying in Europe commercially without JAA licenses. I know that there are a large amount of N-REG aircraft in Ireland and the UK and this new ruling will be detrimental. I put money on it that it won't go through! Quote
500E Posted October 19, 2010 Posted October 19, 2010 EUROPEAN PILOT RULING DELAYED European pilots flying under FAA certificates and with N-registered aircraft have a couple of months of breathing room in which to press their case against proposed rule changes they believe will seriously damage general aviation in Europe. A conciliation committee between the European Union Commission and the national governments has delayed until December a decision on rule changes put forth by the European Aviation Safety Agency (EASA). The rules would have essentially eliminated the long-standing practice of thousands of pilots maintaining and operating GA aircraft under American regulations. The meeting was held in private and there are no transcripts or minutes available to the public, but the delay itself is seen as a hopeful sign. I hope FAA & IAOPA are pointing out the error of their ways to EASA Go to it DR Tweet.Dont think I would bet on it TL, it will require some heavy lobbying.I do not think there is a safety problem with N reg, why would we feel any greater wish to die than G or F reg pilots, if you are going to skimp it does not matter what reg you are on. Quote
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