Schweizer 333 Cost of Ownership

[Dan 300CBI]

Any Schweizer 333 owners or know of any 333 owners out there that could help me out with real cost of ownership numbers. I have the numbers directly from Schweizer's site but I wonder how close they are. I know the fuel charges vary along with the per hour maintenance costs and would like to talk to someone who has actually owned one.

 

If you are an owner or know of any owners willing to talk to me please contact me so we can chat.

 

 

Thanks in advance.

[Optigirl]

Any Schweizer 333 owners or know of any 333 owners out there that could help me out with real cost of ownership numbers. I have the numbers directly from Schweizer's site but I wonder how close they are. I know the fuel charges vary along with the per hour maintenance costs and would like to talk to someone who has actually owned one.

 

If you are an owner or know of any owners willing to talk to me please contact me so we can chat.

Thanks in advance.

 

I know of a person that owns a 333, I dropped her an email and will post her response.

From what little I do know of this Airframe, It's rock solid. One that I wouldn't mind owning myself.

And looks really cute in Pink...

 

 

Schweizers review of there 333

 

Cost Bottom line value. The Model 333 is the most cost-effective turbine helicopter in the market today. That means that its cost of ownership (the cost to acquire and the cost to operate) is less than the competitors’, substantially less. Its direct operating costs are only 70% of typical costs for many other single-turbine helicopters. And that's not all. Because of its robust structure and excellent performance, retained value will remain high.

[Dan 300CBI]

I know of a person that owns a 333, I dropped her an email and will post her response.

From what little I do know of this Airframe, It's rock solid. One that I wouldn't mind owning myself.

And looks really cute in Pink...

Schweizers review of there 333

 

Cost Bottom line value. The Model 333 is the most cost-effective turbine helicopter in the market today. That means that its cost of ownership (the cost to acquire and the cost to operate) is less than the competitors’, substantially less. Its direct operating costs are only 70% of typical costs for many other single-turbine helicopters. And that's not all. Because of its robust structure and excellent performance, retained value will remain high.

 

 

Thanks Optigirl I appreciate it.

 

Pink?? lol I was thinking more black with flames.. heh..

[Optigirl]

Pink?? lol I was thinking more black with flames.. heh..

 

Black with flames, so over done.

 

Be a little different, Try taking a few idea's from nature.

Like Koi Fish? Now that be a completely cool paint job. Sure to get you noticed !

[Optigirl]

185.00 to 204.00 /H

 

333's have different tank sizes.

25Gal. 45Gal and 75Gal that i know of.

this will play into the operational cost.

 

ps: get the bigger tank ! 45 or 75gl save your self an FCC headache !

I have the 75gal now. (73Gal)

 

Also be smart about your electronic package setup.

 

Good seat covers with alot of padding wont hurt !

I hope that helps

Heather.

 

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~LD

[Dan 300CBI]

185.00 to 204.00 /H

 

333's have different tank sizes.

25Gal. 45Gal and 75Gal that i know of.

this will play into the operational cost.

 

ps: get the bigger tank ! 45 or 75gl save your self an FCC headache !

I have the 75gal now. (73Gal)

 

Also be smart about your electronic package setup.

 

Good seat covers with alot of padding wont hurt !

I hope that helps

Heather.

 

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~LD

 

Thanks Optigirl and please pass on my thanks to Heather as well. Those numbers are pretty close to what I have but I had to pad my numbers a bit to accomdate the $75 / hour for the maintenance guy and the fuel is closer to $5.

 

Thanks again.

[Helo-Pilot]

I have looked into the 333 several times and have spoken with several operators about the costs of operation, maintenance issues, and so on.

 

What I have not been able to figure out, is why this aircraft has not been more widely accepted for both training commercial operation? This is the only aircraft out there that can be set up with 3 sets of flight controls. It has excellent cockpit visibility, good flight characteristics, that is based on well known systems that most operators are familiar with.

 

While there are several operators out there that can't wait to get rid of them, there are also others that can’t say how much they love them enough.

 

My personal opinion? It's kinda ugly! Not REALLY ugly, just kinda. And, as we all know, Americans are obsessed with looks.

Edited September 12, 2007 by Helo-Pilot

[Optigirl]

My personal opinion? It's kinda ugly! Not REALLY ugly, just kinda. And, as we all know, Americans are obsessed with looks.

 

 

 

 

 

I still think it looks like a fish.

[500E]

Any owner \ pilot like to make a list of + - points and general real world cost, I keep looking and think the same as Helio-Pilot why are there not more of them out there, it appears to have the edge on almost all the competition, quick, economic, tried and tested running gear( engine blades & Gearbox, good view, safety levels good, + will lift at least own weight,WHY not more of them about :ph34r: ????

[Helo-Pilot]

Don't get me wrong. Throw me a set of keys and get the hell outa the way! Ugly or not, I'll fly it. I'll admit it, I've dated a few at chicks too!

[Optigirl]

Single Engine Turbine Helicopter Comparisons

Single Engine Turbine Helicopters Base Price New Direct Operating Cost / Hr M.A.U.W. Empty Weight Useful Load Max Sling Load Max Range ** Fast Cruise HOGE ceiling ISA

 

Schweizer 333 $650 000 $ 190 2550 lbs 1250 lbs 1300 lbs 310 nm 105 knots ft

 

Enstrom 480B $600 000 $ 160 3000 lbs 1695 lbs 1305 lbs 1000 lbs 350 nm 110 knots 4500 ft

 

Bell 206 B3 $850 000 $ 200 3200 lbs 1713 lbs 1487 lbs 1337 lbs 374 nm 110 knots 5300 ft

 

EC120 $1000 000 $ 220 3780 lbs 2127 lbs 1653 lbs 1540 lbs 393 nm 122 knots 7600 ft

 

MD 500E $850 000 $ 220 3000 lbs 1481 lbs 1519 lbs 1769 lbs 239 nm 135 knots 6000 ft

MD 520N $1100 000 $ 225 3350 lbs 1585 lbs 1765 lbs 1965 lbs 200 nm 125 knots 5600 ft

MD 530F $1100 000 $ 240 3100 lbs 1591 lbs 1509 lbs 1809 lbs 206 nm 135 knots 14400 ft

 

AS350 B2 $1350 000 $ 220 4960 lbs 2690 lbs 2270 lbs 2522 lbs 360 nm 133 knots 7550 ft

AS350 B3 $1500 000 $ 230 4960 lbs 2716 lbs 2244 lbs 3086 lbs 359 nm 140 knots 11200 ft

 

EC130B4 $1500 000 $ 230 5351 lbs 3020 lbs 2331 lbs 2557 lbs 329 nm 130 knots 8325 ft

 

Bell 206 L4 $1250 000 $ 260 4450 lbs 2327 lbs 2123 lbs 1941 lbs 324 nm 110 knots 6500 ft

Bell 407 $1500 000 $ 350 5000 lbs 2653 lbs 2347 lbs 2646 lbs 330 nm 133 knots 10450 ft

 

MD 600N $1500 000 $ 290 4100 lbs 2100 lbs 2000 lbs 2100 lbs 342 nm 134 knots 6000 ft

 

Agusta 119 $2400 000 $ 300 5997 lbs 3152 lbs 2845 lbs 360 nm 144 knots 10700 ft

 

Bell 210 $3000 000 $ 530 lbs lbs lbs nm knots ft

 

source: http://www.helinews.com/turbinecomparison.shtml

 

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I also hunted if there were any cases open with the Consumer report groups.

Happy to say, There are none.

 

I have emailed a few people that have there 333's up for sale for there review's.

 

Heather said she loves her 333 and also doesnt know why they dont sale more of them.

 

Hope that helps in some little way. ~LD

Edited September 13, 2007 by Optigirl

[More_Cowbell]

This is actually my first post here, but I have been reading VR for a few weeks now. I am about to start getting my Helicopter add ons in the next few months. I have been doing a little research on the different makes and models trying to determine what I want to end up with, and have looked into the 333s as much as you can on the web.

 

My main question, is how would a four or five year old 333 compare to an early model 500C from acquisition thru 200 hours a year? Which would be the better value thru about 5 years of ownership?

[Helo-Pilot]

http://www.pilotmarket.com/aircrafts/Aircr...ting-14230.html

 

Somewhat off topic, but look at what is possible with this machine! Dual IFR trainer, while logging turbine time too!

[500E]

Helio Pilot

Mario is the same person who has the superb 520n in black for sale

The 333 is rather nice to.

Optigirl

Thanks for list we all ready run a 500 and are looking for either a late 300 or 333 that requires work