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#1 r22butters

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Posted 29 September 2018 - 15:10

Ok I'm a bit closer to 800 hours, but still, a 750 hour difference between civilian and military entry requirements! I know they have more dual pilot and multiengine experience than us, but still, a civilian pilot having to get up to 1,250 hours to equal a military pilot's ability to transition into a fixed wing commuter seems quite ridiculous!

,...and why 1,250, I mean it only takes 1,200 to get an ATP, what's the other 50 for?

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Posted 29 September 2018 - 15:17

There’s a huge difference in flight experience between an 800 hour military pilot flying a complex aircraft and an 800 hour civilian flight instructor and tour pilot flying R22s and 44s.

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Posted 01 October 2018 - 09:45

Do you sit around and look for ways to "stir the pot"?  Just wondering, and doing some stirring myself... 


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Posted 02 October 2018 - 14:36

There’s a huge difference in flight experience between an 800 hour military pilot flying a complex aircraft and an 800 hour civilian flight instructor and tour pilot flying R22s and 44s.

 

Yeah, but how many 'complex' military aircraft have their own special SFAR like the cute, little R22!

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Posted 02 October 2018 - 21:00

Yeah, but how many 'complex' military aircraft have their own special SFAR like the cute, little R22!
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SFAR 73 only exits because too many "complex" aircraft hotshots kept crashing the poor innocent little guy :(
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Posted 11 October 2018 - 11:53

Those minimums are to transition rotary pilots over to airplanes.

 

Part of the requirements for an airplane ATP is 1500 hours total time with 250 hours PIC in airplanes specifically.  That's why they want you to have 1250, because they are going to help you pay for the 250 in airplanes to qualify for an ATP.

 

Military pilots can qualify for a restricted ATP, which is 750 total time with the same 250 hours airplane specific training and experience.  So they want 500 hours from a military pilot.

 

Additionally, there are some other ways you can lower the requirements, such as holding a bachelors degree with an aviation major from certain colleges (1000 hours), or a similar associates degree (1250 hours).

 

https://www.ecfr.gov...#se14.2.61_1160

 

/\ There's a link to the restricted ATP stuff.  \/ Here's an article explaining it:

 

http://www.boldmetho...restricted-atp/


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