IFLY Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 Anyone have a Schweizer available near Tucson? I would like to get better at manual throttle control and the R-22's correlator works too well at keeping the RPM close with the governer off. I'll consider anything up to a days drive from here...LA and San Diego is Ok but Denver is too far. Anything in Phoenix? Jerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick1128 Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 Try Canyon State Aero in Gilbert, AZ. They have a 300C out of Mesa, AZ. www.canyonstateaero.com480-302-1680 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r22butters Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 If you like working the throttle, you should check out an Enstrom. The one I flew didn't even have a correlator. The instructor had me rolling the throttle first, then adjusting the rpm with the collective (just the opposite of how they had me fly the S300). It took some getting use to, but it was kind of cool learning a different way to fly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IFLY Posted June 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 So, any Enstroms around here? Jerry Rick thanks for the contact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick1128 Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 Try Airwest Helicopters, LLC 24017 N 55th AveGlendale, AZ 85310 Contact: Jeff BoatmanPhone: 623-516-2790www.airwesthelicopters.com They use the F28F which has a correlator. The earlier models did not have one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldy Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 Bell 47's need some throttle work as well, and they are pretty cool to fly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IFLY Posted June 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 Which helicopter needs the most throttle work? The Enstrom without the correlator? So Goldy (or anyone) where can I find a Bell 47? I plan on flying sometime in the next 10 days. Jerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldy Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 Which helicopter needs the most throttle work? The Enstrom without the correlator? So Goldy (or anyone) where can I find a Bell 47? I plan on flying sometime in the next 10 days. Jerry Any ship without a correlator, the B47 has one, but still needs some touching now and then. Only two B47's I know still being used out here for training is TwinAir and an outfit at Chino airport. Goldy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lelebebbel Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 Which helicopter needs the most throttle work? The Enstrom without the correlator?Bell 47 with a badly adjusted correlator... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whistlerpilot Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 I did my Canadian commercial on a Bell 47 with Chinook Helicopters out of Abbotsford BC. They have 5 Bell 47 G2's aswell as 3 206's and 2 R44's. The 47 doesn't have a correlator. It has a cam box which is usually pretty worn and doesn't behave like the correlator on a 300. You need to lead with throttle and some times it takes several handfulls if doing a quickstop or auto with power recovery. I really appreciated the stuck pedal exercises with full manual throttle after the initial terror wore off. Fly the 47 it's a legend! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldy Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 The 47 doesn't have a correlator. It has a cam box Fly the 47 it's a legend! Hey Eric ! So what do you call it if its not a correlator? I have never heard it referred to as a "cam box" although I'm sure thats what its called in a maintenance manual. I could be mistaken, but I thought the D version and earlier didnt have anything, where as the G2 has some attempt to help you! I agree, it's a legend to fly! Goldy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trans Lift Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 Why are you so worried about "throttle work". The 300, enstrom or 47 will give you sufficient practice to get familiar with using a throttle. Correlator or not! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RkyMtnHI Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 Try Canyon State Aero in Gilbert, AZ. They have a 300C out of Mesa, AZ. www.canyonstateaero.com480-302-1680 i second this... ask for Jan.. tell 'em dp from Heli-Ops sent you.. dp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clay Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 But DP from Heli-ops didn't send him. Rick from VR did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick1128 Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 But DP from Heli-ops didn't send him. Rick from VR did Thanks for the back up Clay. How are things going? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RkyMtnHI Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 But DP from Heli-ops didn't send him. Rick from VR did hmmm, i thought we both did, and two recommendations is better than one.. dp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clay Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 Im just messin around guys. Hell, tell them I sent you too. three is better than two. I am doing good Rick. Living back in Houston and flying in the Gulf. how about you? where are you at? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IFLY Posted June 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 Why are you so worried about "throttle work". The 300, enstrom or 47 will give you sufficient practice to get familiar with using a throttle. Correlator or not! I'm trying not to become a statistic. I am test flying an expermintal and it is strictly manual throttle control. I've pretty much decided on the Enstrom, can't find a F-28C so I may have to use the F-28F in Phoenix. Jerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick1128 Posted June 24, 2010 Report Share Posted June 24, 2010 Im just messin around guys. Hell, tell them I sent you too. three is better than two. I am doing good Rick. Living back in Houston and flying in the Gulf. how about you? where are you at? I am doing alright. Got my Helicopter ATP in Feb while in Florida. But am flying a Caravan on floats out of Long Island into New York City for the summer. The exclusion areas are no where near as bad as the uninformed make them out to be. However, as usual the FAA made matters worse in their safety improvement program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IFLY Posted June 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2010 Coundn't get the Enstrom for tomorrow so I'm flying a 300 instead at Canyon State Aero...thanks for the info everyone. Jerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldy Posted June 27, 2010 Report Share Posted June 27, 2010 I'm trying not to become a statistic. I am test flying an expermintal and it is strictly manual throttle control. I've pretty much decided on the Enstrom, can't find a F-28C so I may have to use the F-28F in Phoenix. Jerry There is a new governor out that is going on several of the kit builds. I think Rotor FX at VNY has them on a few of their builds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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