r22butters Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 I didn't spend all those training flights nervously awaiting the next throttle chop, only to have that quick instinctive reaction I developed replaced by a machine! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippiesdrainage Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 So what happens when a nervous student death grips the throttle and gets low rotor? It seems great for engine failures but would create a big mess in the seats for overly nervous pilots 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam32 Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 Cool video but it will never get an STC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Hunt Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 In an auto when you are going for range, you pull the revs down until the horn beeps - and this thing snaps it to the floor?? It better have an easily-over-ridden clutch or there will be a lot of accidents of machines dropping out of the atmosphere. You can't legislate against stupidity, and you can't make an R-22 idiot-proof. Starting the engine proves that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolftalonID Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 (edited) Cool video but it will never get an STC.This is already STC approved and available. This device is actually pretty nice and well thought out. See this video. https://youtu.be/qiZrk76zXfM Edited October 17, 2017 by WolftalonID 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r22butters Posted October 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 Well, for a nice bit of irony, at least half the 22's I've flown over the years already have collectives that creep down on their own if I let go! ,...the other half creep up! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wally Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 Not an Robbie driver, so I can't comment on the specifics of this device. I understand that Robinsons are very efficient, delivering more speed than comparable recip helos. At a high cruise, in a lot of helicopters, the critical initial action after a power failure is an attitude pitch up, reversing the disk as a whole's relative airflow quickly, minimizing the RPM decay and loss of altitude in recovering to a stable autorotation. Is this the case in Robinsons?This thing looks like the throttle kicker that was installed on TH55s while I was a basic IP. I hated that thing kicking the throttle back on an already overloaded student... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARM_Coder Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 In an auto when you are going for range, you pull the revs down until the horn beeps - and this thing snaps it to the floor?? It better have an easily-over-ridden clutch or there will be a lot of accidents of machines dropping out of the atmosphere. You can't legislate against stupidity, and you can't make an R-22 idiot-proof. Starting the engine proves that. The pilot can override the mechanism as its pull is not that strong. Their website shows this. https://www.helitrak.com/products/collective-pull-down Maybe the worst problem here is an engine failure close to the ground, when you really don't want the collective going full down in a split second. You will definitely need a new set of skids (and maybe a few new vertebrae too). Cheers! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam32 Posted October 18, 2017 Report Share Posted October 18, 2017 Sounds freaking stupid for a training helicopter...get students used to not having to fly the machine then when they get out in real life and have an engine failure at 100 feet over the tree tops they will be sitting there waiting for the little contraption to lower the collective for them... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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