crashresidue Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 Cheers all, I'm an "ole dawg" in this industry - old in utility, old in fire - I'm just an "ole dawg" all the way around! I started doing tours - just to keep my hand in, and I'll admit, I've always looked down of tour pilots - till I got to be one! I had this "dick head" in back the other day for a flight. I always point out the Huey that's parked on the next ramp as an "old Nam Dog" and mention that I'm one too. This a$$ hole then gets an attitude and says - "Just how many people have YOU killed?!?" - and I answer "How many people do you know - - - - add a hundred to it and that's about the right number!" He said "I don't think I want to fly with you" so I bent her around and headed back to the airport - he says "Where are you going?" and I said - "back - I don't want you behind me when I'm flying." So I return to the HAT, roll her off and start the cool down - he's STILL bitchin' and I tell him "It's two minutes of cool down, three more minutes till the rotors stop - and DON'T BE HERE when I get out!" He goes back into the office area and really starts to raise Hell -and one of our little "pacific princesses" grabs him by the collar and tells him - "He''s from "tha Cav" - you REALLY don't want to PISS HIM OFF!!!! So I go back in and ask about the "a$$-hole" and what he'd said or promised and Stacey said he'd gone away with his "tail between his legs". OK. So I had to ask her about where she'd learned about the "Cav" - her Dad was in it, in Nam. Like me, the Cav was his second tour (grunt) - and he(we) LOVED IT! We were the "bad boys" there - we had our own artillery, our own armor, our own aviation assets - we only lacked "naval gun-fire" as an organic asset. We didn't need ANYBODY - we could do it all! Or so we thought! gentle winds,cr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southernweyr Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 That's kind of funny. Especially when the girl grabbed him by the collar and he went running. If he felt so strongly about the issue you would think he would have enough of a back bone to stand up about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly N. Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 Cheers all, This a$$ hole then gets an attitude and says - "Just how many people have YOU killed?!?" - and I answer "How many people do you know - - - - add a hundred to it and that's about the right number!" He said "I don't think I want to fly with you" so I bent her around and headed back to the airport - he says "Where are you going?" and I said - "back - I don't want you behind me when I'm flying." So I return to the HAT, roll her off and start the cool down - he's STILL bitchin' and I tell him "It's two minutes of cool down, three more minutes till the rotors stop - and DON'T BE HERE when I get out!" He goes back into the office area and really starts to raise Hell It's always amazing to me that there are people out there with such contempt for current and former military service members. It really shows a lack of understanding about how the real world works in my very humble opinion. Fortunately, they seem to be the extreme minority (although, they're a very loud and active minority in some areas). Take care,Kelly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RotorRunner Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 Crash, First, I'd like to say thanks for what you and many others have done for our country. Secondly, I'd like to say that is awesome!! People in our society are so used to the "Wal-Mart mentality" that you can always raise sand about something and then the manager is going to apologize all over themselves and give the customer what they want, usually for free. I bet the dude could not believe you actually took him back to the pad. This could have only been better if you utilized a 135 certificate and dropped him off right about the place he made this comment. I have ask people before: "Would you cuss your heart doctor?" I think this guy just learned a valuable lesson: Don't talk crap to the PIC. Thanks again,RotorRunner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wally Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 (edited) Cheers all, I'm an "ole dawg" in this industry - old in utility, old in fire - I'm just an "ole dawg" all the way around! I started doing tours - just to keep my hand in, and I'll admit, I've always looked down of tour pilots - till I got to be one! I had this "dick head" in back the other day for a flight. I always point out the Huey that's parked on the next ramp as an "old Nam Dog" and mention that I'm one too. This a$$ hole then gets an attitude and says - "Just how many people have YOU killed?!?" - and I answer "How many people do you know - - - - add a hundred to it and that's about the right number!" He said "I don't think I want to fly with you" so I bent her around and headed back to the airport - he says "Where are you going?" and I said - "back - I don't want you behind me when I'm flying." So I return to the HAT, roll her off and start the cool down - he's STILL bitchin' and I tell him "It's two minutes of cool down, three more minutes till the rotors stop - and DON'T BE HERE when I get out!" He goes back into the office area and really starts to raise Hell -and one of our little "pacific princesses" grabs him by the collar and tells him - "He''s from "tha Cav" - you REALLY don't want to PISS HIM OFF!!!! So I go back in and ask about the "a$$-hole" and what he'd said or promised and Stacey said he'd gone away with his "tail between his legs". OK. So I had to ask her about where she'd learned about the "Cav" - her Dad was in it, in Nam. Like me, the Cav was his second tour (grunt) - and he(we) LOVED IT! We were the "bad boys" there - we had our own artillery, our own armor, our own aviation assets - we only lacked "naval gun-fire" as an organic asset. We didn't need ANYBODY - we could do it all! Or so we thought! gentle winds,cr I admire your restraint ("Just how many people have YOU killed?!?" "I've killed men I respected more than I do you, right now." Kinda puts the casual disrespect of the careless in a new perspective.) and envy your position- tours in Hawaii- they PAY you for that??? I been throwed outta more than one O-club for excessive exuberance, general raising of Cain with my Cav brothers. In my experience, when the stuff gets solid, you can't do better than sharing a fight with a trooper- unless it's throwing down afterwards with'em. Make sure they check their guns and their sabers. Hooah! (Wish we'd had that expression way back when) Edited February 26, 2008 by Wally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick1537 Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 I also envy your position, maybe I will be working with you in a few years (or more). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1badz32 Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 Awsome story. +1Something tells me a person shouldnt talk smak to someone they just asked "how many people have you killed?" and got an honost awnser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADRidge Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 I can't stand people like that. Only reason I'm not active duty is I can't get enough medical waivers. I wish the Military was as lenient as the FAA. I applaud your service and your restraint. I can't say I would have done anything differently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOATFIXERGUY Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 Being a tour pilot myself, I feel your pain. I've had guys like that. What I've done is just isolated the intercom so I don't have to listen to them (more of a business decision than anything else). Your choice of taking them back is another great option! John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashresidue Posted February 27, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 Cheers all, I REALLY appreciate the support from you guys. Thanks! DON'T get me started on getting thrown out of "O" clubs,Wally - I've been thrown out of some of the best of them! At one point, I got "escorted" out at gun-point in Bien Hoa(sp?). I don't sport the vanity license plates that say "Vet" or "Combat Vet", I just have a Cav patch in the back window that say's Viet Nam, and down below it there is a sticker that reads "Fight, Fornicate, or Foxtrot - it's YOUR choice!" Years ago, I read the "Ugly American" and went "NO WAY!". I was wrong! Some, although it's a VERY small minority - are A$$HOLES and give everybody a bad name! The rest are GREAT people to fly! They listen, they try to understand, and they TRY to make your job easier. "Tit" shows are ALWAYS appreciated! Especially if she's in shape! "cool down" is done - I'm off the bed - good night people! Gentle winds,cr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bossman Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 Cheers all, I REALLY appreciate the support from you guys. Thanks! DON'T get me started on getting thrown out of "O" clubs,Wally - I've been thrown out of some of the best of them! At one point, I got "escorted" out at gun-point in Bien Hoa(sp?). I don't sport the vanity license plates that say "Vet" or "Combat Vet", I just have a Cav patch in the back window that say's Viet Nam, and down below it there is a sticker that reads "Fight, Fornicate, or Foxtrot - it's YOUR choice!" Years ago, I read the "Ugly American" and went "NO WAY!". I was wrong! Some, although it's a VERY small minority - are A$$HOLES and give everybody a bad name! The rest are GREAT people to fly! They listen, they try to understand, and they TRY to make your job easier. "Tit" shows are ALWAYS appreciated! Especially if she's in shape! "cool down" is done - I'm off the bed - good night people! Gentle winds,crHey Crash,Whenever we do a fair or festival we always take the Huey. All the Vets come by and we talk forever. Some of them will just get up in the back and sit there and cry. I always tell the folks to leave them alone, they'll be OK in a minute. You sound like my kind of pilot. Take no sh*t and only give sh*t when needed. Unlike you, I just had the whole side of my truck done in a mural of my Huey fighting fire with the bucket. Plus a lot of Nam patches and insignia. The Huey has stickers all over it. I let the vets put their units on it. Come see us.bossman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattcob Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 Hey Crash,Whenever we do a fair or festival we always take the Huey. All the Vets come by and we talk forever. Some of them will just get up in the back and sit there and cry. I always tell the folks to leave them alone, they'll be OK in a minute. You sound like my kind of pilot. Take no sh*t and only give sh*t when needed. Unlike you, I just had the whole side of my truck done in a mural of my Huey fighting fire with the bucket. Plus a lot of Nam patches and insignia. The Huey has stickers all over it. I let the vets put their units on it. Come see us.bossmanplease send me a picture of the truck i need to see it!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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