Shaun Posted September 17, 2010 Posted September 17, 2010 But does it have an ejection seat? DIDN'T THINK SO 1 Quote
Goldy Posted September 18, 2010 Posted September 18, 2010 I was standing 10 feet away when they unveiled it that year with all the smoke and curtains!! Anyway, I am hoping to see a VNE of 275 knots. Just awesome! Quote
adam32 Posted September 18, 2010 Posted September 18, 2010 I'd rather just take a Cessna 310 and get there even quicker with less fuel burn... Quote
Goldy Posted September 18, 2010 Posted September 18, 2010 (edited) I'd rather just take a Cessna 310 and get there even quicker with less fuel burn... I'd rather have more fun on the way and make you buy the beer! Can you imagine talking to ATC? Ummm, we see you at 260 knots, confirm you're a helicopter? Edited September 18, 2010 by Goldy Quote
Eric Hunt Posted September 18, 2010 Posted September 18, 2010 I'd rather just take a Cessna 310 and get there even quicker with less fuel burn.. You might get to an airfield in a Cessna, but you won't be anywhere near where I will be in my helicopter. REAL pilots do't need runways. Quote
adam32 Posted September 18, 2010 Posted September 18, 2010 You might get to an airfield in a Cessna, but you won't be anywhere near where I will be in my helicopter. REAL pilots do't need runways. Alright...I'll take a Pilatus Porter with a Garrett then... Quote
Goldy Posted September 18, 2010 Posted September 18, 2010 (edited) Alright...I'll take a Pilatus Porter with a Garrett then... I'll raise you with a Piaggio Avanti....pretty soon we'll get there so damn fast it won't be any fun! Edited September 18, 2010 by Goldy Quote
adam32 Posted September 19, 2010 Posted September 19, 2010 I'll raise you with a Piaggio Avanti....pretty soon we'll get there so damn fast it won't be any fun! Those are pretty cool too...but the Porter is like an "Ultra STOL"...about as close to a helicopter approach as you can get... But, I'll go ahead and raise you with an F-16...complete with missiles and guns... Quote
Karl Posted September 19, 2010 Posted September 19, 2010 Those are pretty cool too...but the Porter is like an "Ultra STOL"...about as close to a helicopter approach as you can get... But, I'll go ahead and raise you with an F-16...complete with missiles and guns... If we're going fast and slow with guns I'm thinking F-35Bhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_F-35_Lightning_II#F-35B Quote
Goldy Posted September 19, 2010 Posted September 19, 2010 Ok, you win, and we're way off topic! The Lightning is way cool....just what you would expect to get for $120 Million each US. Quote
jaredsega Posted September 19, 2010 Posted September 19, 2010 Real Pilots dont need Runways!?!??!?!? Seriously!??!? this just pisses me off about you bunch of arrogant Heli pilots that just think Coppters are the coolest thing in the world and Fixed Wing is just stupid.Dont get me wrong I LOVE Coppters and still fly them for work, But if you want to see a Real mans job you come up the the great NW and watch us fly AG in the Hills of the palouse. Using every foot of Runway for takeoff! just dont be so closed minded every pilot should fly both RW & FW it will make you a way better Stick and a more rounded skilled person. Both aircraft are very mission specific and you need both.I would challenge any one you you that dont like FW to come out here and Ill take you up in my Citabria and rally around like you never have before. then tell me you hate planes! 1 Quote
IFLY Posted September 19, 2010 Posted September 19, 2010 Real Pilots dont need Runways!?!??!?!? Seriously!??!? We were just having a little fun and you took it too seriously. I use runways all the time but they seem to be made pretty short and really wide. Jerry Quote
ADRidge Posted September 19, 2010 Posted September 19, 2010 Real Pilots dont need Runways!?!??!?!? Seriously!??!? this just pisses me off about you bunch of arrogant Heli pilots that just think Coppters are the coolest thing in the world and Fixed Wing is just stupid. Back away from the keyboard with your hands above your head. Take two deep breaths and repeat after me: "I must save up to buy a sense of humor... I must save up to buy a sense of humor." It's all good. There are plenty of dual-rated folks on this board. Quote
Karl Posted September 20, 2010 Posted September 20, 2010 Ok, you win, and we're way off topic! The Lightning is way cool....just what you would expect to get for $120 Million each US.I really think Two $60 million planes would be more effective than one $120 million plane. Quote
500E Posted September 20, 2010 Posted September 20, 2010 The question is is it a helicopter or a plane with rotating wing or a Gyro with the pre rotor stuck Quote
IFLY Posted September 20, 2010 Posted September 20, 2010 Helicopter, it is supported by the rotor moving air down through the rotor and derives a substantial portion of its forward speed from the rotor but it is augmented by the pusher prop. Airplane wings don't support the aircraft in a hover and Gyros can't hover because the air is moving the wrong direction through the rotor. Did I miss something? Jerry Quote
500E Posted September 20, 2010 Posted September 20, 2010 "The X2 is a compound aircraft, not a true helicopter," said Elfan Ap Rees, the editor of Helicopter International magazine in Great Britain, who objected after Sikorsky's July 26 statement that the X2 had reached 225 knots, setting an unofficial speed record. "…The X2 is a fine technological achievement with great promise and Sikorsky should be proud of that and not belittle its success with inaccurate claims." The 5,000-pound, single-pilot X2 has one engine, two counter-rotating main rotors on top — and a rear "pusher" propeller to give it extra thrust. Geoff Russell, a spokesman for AgustaWestland, a Sikorsky competitor in Europe, also said the X2 does not qualify as a "pure helicopter" because it generates power from a device other than the main rotor atop the aircraft. 1 Quote
IFLY Posted September 20, 2010 Posted September 20, 2010 Sounds just like a competitor that didn't get there first. I found the following definitions and the last one seems most accurate. Helicopter (ICAO Definition)Helicopter- Helicopter denotes a rotorcraft that primarily depends on engine driven rotors for motion. Helicopter is an aircraft sub category. ...read morePosted in ICAO Terms | Tagged ICAO, International Helicopter – 14 CFR 1.1Helicopter means a rotorcraft that, for its horizontal motion, depends principally on its engine-driven rotors. ...read morePosted in FAA Terms | Tagged 14 CFR 1.1, FAA, Regulatory Helicopter Definition SweatshirtA million parts flying in formation Quote
IFLY Posted September 21, 2010 Posted September 21, 2010 I was just curious to see what the FAA definition was.BTW I haven't had an IFE yet...unless you call a student one. Jerry Quote
adam32 Posted September 28, 2010 Posted September 28, 2010 http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100927/tc_nm/us_eurocopter_x3_2 Here's one that does 220 knots...wouldn't wanna do much long lining with it though... Quote
Goldy Posted September 28, 2010 Posted September 28, 2010 http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100927/tc_nm/us_eurocopter_x3_2 Here's one that does 220 knots...wouldn't wanna do much long lining with it though... I was wondering what kind of certificate I would need to fly that thing. Rotary and a twin engine fixed wing rating combined? Lets see a complex, high performance and REALLY REALLY complex rating!! Goldy Quote
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