Not the Usual Qualifications?

[eagle5]

QUALIFICATIONS:

 

• Maintains a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. Is a consistent witness for Jesus Christ.

• Bachelor degree or university program certificate; or two to four years related experience and/or training for Bell 206; overseas experience; or equivalent combination of education and experience. Management and/or leadership skills;

• One year of college-level Biblical studies is preferred.

• 2 years of commercial/for profit aviation experience.

• A&P or significant management/leadership experience.

• 2 years of living and/or working overseas, desirable.

• ATP and/or CFI licenses, desirable.

 

Saw this in a job ad and wondered if anyone else has seen odd stuff like this before? Especially that first one!

[Counterrotate]

I only hire pilots who have a close relationship with the flying spaghetti monster.

[Trans Lift]

I wouldn't work for someone like that if it was the best paid job in the world. My job doesn't rely on fictional characters!

[Flying Pig]

Because the quals arent for your usual job. Its for a missionary pilot. Put in to context and its not so odd or outrageous. Its a missionary organization looking for a missionary pilot. The pilots are there to be missionaries first and foremost. There are quite a few of them but they usually operate airplanes. You have to show your long term commitment to the faith as a part of the position because you are doing it to be a missionary, not a pilot looking to build time. 99.9% chance that its not paid either. One of my old instructors spent 2 years flying a King Air and a Cessna Caravan as a missionary. All volunteer, supported by donations. His group also had an MD500D as well.

 

An example

 

http://www.maf.org/

 

http://usa.ntm.org/the-aircraft

Edited December 19, 2012 by Flying Pig

[JCM5]

I only hire pilots who have a close relationship with the flying spaghetti monster.

 

[Helipilot PTK]

I wouldn't work for someone like that if it was the best paid job in the world. My job doesn't rely on fictional characters!

 

Happy Holidays!

[Counterrotate]

Happy Holidays!

 

It's the most expensive time of the year.

[Helipilot PTK]

It's the most expensive time of the year.

 

Depends on what age group you fall into.

[Counterrotate]

Depends on what age group you fall into.

 

Touche.

[Trans Lift]

Ahh I still call it Christmas! Just out of habit though

[Helipilot PTK]

Haha just had to give you a hard time.

[avbug]

20 years or so ago I spoke with a pilot from MAF as he was loading up a Cessna 206 in Madang, Papua New Guinea. It was so packed with people, chickens, and bags of gear that no daylight could be seen through the aircraft. The aircraft squatted down on it's gear; it was really weighed down.

 

I asked the pilot about his job, and asked him what he was seeing for hiring minimums. He simply replied "We don't hire people of your theological affiliation." I hadn't told him what that was, but asked "I thought you were a Christian organization."

 

"We are." the pilot replied.

 

"Aren't you supposed to love all men, then? I asked.

 

"We hate catholics, too." He said, then added "but we'll fly them if they pay us enough."

[Counterrotate]

20 years or so ago I spoke with a pilot from MAF as he was loading up a Cessna 206 in Madang, Papua New Guinea. It was so packed with people, chickens, and bags of gear that no daylight could be seen through the aircraft. The aircraft squatted down on it's gear; it was really weighed down.

 

I asked the pilot about his job, and asked him what he was seeing for hiring minimums. He simply replied "We don't hire people of your theological affiliation." I hadn't told him what that was, but asked "I thought you were a Christian organization."

 

"We are." the pilot replied.

 

"Aren't you supposed to love all men, then? I asked.

 

"We hate catholics, too." He said, then added "but we'll fly them if they pay us enough."

 

Sounds pretty typical.

[Smoot]

I say whatever group/religion promotes peace and love in this world, I think that's great. As for the fictional character comment, its not funny.

[Flying Pig]

In the initial post, Im sure if had Eagle5 included "the rest of the story" it would have been a non-issue.

[Counterrotate]

The only religion I've read about that actually promotes peace and love is Buddhism. The rest just talk out one side of their mouth and fuel global conflict. And the fictional character comment was funny, just not to you. I saw this on Facebook the other day and it ring true:" You don't need religion to have morals. If you can't tell right from wrong you lack empathy, not religion." But I digress. This is a helicopter forum, not a religious forum.

[Helipilot PTK]

The only religion I've read about that actually promotes peace and love is Buddhism. The rest just talk out one side of their mouth and fuel global conflict. And the fictional character comment was funny, just not to you. I saw this on Facebook the other day and it ring true:" You don't need religion to have morals. If you can't tell right from wrong you lack empathy, not religion." But I digress. This is a helicopter forum, not a religious forum.

 

We are born with moral codes because we are children of God. Even if you don't believe in him during your life time you will still have the moral codes the Bible talks about. And I agree this is a helicopter forum, and I will say nothing further about religion. This is a free country and it's all of your rights to believe in what you want to.

[Flying Pig]

I think we can all agree that its probably not to unreasonable for a missionary organization to ask they you believe in the goal. These aren't paid positions, and the pilots usually have to raise donations for their own living expenses prior to going. So its no sweat off anyones back. The guy I know who flew King Airs and Caravans left a pretty decent corporate gig to volunteer for a couple years in Africa. And by no means was he someone who needed to build time.

 

There is a movie called End of the Spear that chronicles the lives of some missionary pilots back in the 50's.

 

OK, Enough from me on this.

[Helipilot PTK]

I agree, it's all about the context.

[eagle5]

In the initial post, Im sure if had Eagle5 included "the rest of the story" it would have been a non-issue.

 

I wasn't trying to start a religious debate (I should have known better though...). I was just curious if anyone else has seen "different than normal" job minimums? Are there catagories other than religion?,..."must love dogs" perhaps?

[Wally]

I wouldn't work for someone like that if it was the best paid job in the world. My job doesn't rely on fictional characters!

 

A fiction is a purposeful fabrication. To quote George Costanza "It isn't a lie if you believe it."

 

Prove the non-existence of whatever non-corporal being under discussion.

 

If all this were verifiable scientific fact one way or the other, it wouldn't be "faith" by definition. People flop on the floor and foam at the mouth at that one.

[Fred0311]

I'm keeping my two cents in my change cup on this one...

[Pohi]

 

 

I wasn't trying to start a religious debate (I should have known better though...). I was just curious if anyone else has seen "different than normal" job minimums? Are there catagories other than religion?,..."must love dogs" perhaps?

 

That would be great, I'd love to fly around and save puppies from abusive a-holes, or help hunt down poachers. That would be the perfect "missionary" job for me :-)

[air9r]

Looks like a decent job. They already hired God as your co-pilot.

 

Can't help but wonder if you go to pick up your paycheck & management informs you that its less than agreed upon because there was a higher need & that you could work it out with Jesus if it makes you unhappy.

[Counterrotate]

Is that what happens when you answer to a higher authority?