avbug Posted March 23, 2014 Posted March 23, 2014 I've never really understood why anyone who could afford his own aircraft would want to work for someone else? I wouldn't! It's one thing to own an Enstrom, another to fly a S-92 or 222 or B206 or AS350. It's one thing to own a Cessna, another to get paid to fly a Lear, Boeing, or airbus. Being paid to fly aircraft means flying aircraft you usually can't rent or afford to own. It's one thing to pay to fly a personal aircraft. It's another to get paid to fly. It's another still to get paid well to fly. It's one thing to use one's own aircraft to go see the fall leaves. In employers aircraft, I've seen typhoons in Hong Kong, sunrises in Afghanistan, the blackness of the Amazon basin at night, the coca fields of the FARC, the wilds of Alaska, and most of the world. Good luck doing that in your personal aircraft on your dime. It's one thing to take friends and family flying. It's entirely another to be part of something bigger, with a mission, a purpose, training, a place. When you're paid to fly an aircraft, it's your aircraft: the one you couldn't afford, doing the mission you wouldn't otherwise be doing, doing it in places you couldn't or wouldn't otherwise be able to go, and you're making a living doing it. It's a BIG difference doing that, and buying an aircraft to fly yourself around. 3 Quote
pilot#476398 Posted March 23, 2014 Posted March 23, 2014 Nah, I'd still rather just own my own aircraft and fly where I want when I want. Quote
Spike Posted March 23, 2014 Posted March 23, 2014 Over the years, I’ve come across more than a few pilots. With that, I’d say 98% civilian trained pilots I’ve met who generated successful careers did so via the CFI route. The other 2% were either lucky or rich. Most of us mortal humans are neither…… 1 Quote
avbug Posted March 24, 2014 Posted March 24, 2014 Nah, I'd still rather just own my own aircraft and fly where I want when I want. Do you own a helicopter? Do you fly for a living? Quote
pilot#476398 Posted March 24, 2014 Posted March 24, 2014 Do you own a helicopter? As mentioned in my other post you quoted, no, but that is the dream. However after 300 hours of cross country flying I've decided I don't like flying cross country in a helicopter, so the dream of buying a 44 and flying around the world has been changed to tooling around my local area in a helicycle,...some day? Do you fly for a living? As hinted to in that post of mine you quoted, again no, but that is my retirement job idea. Quote
avbug Posted March 24, 2014 Posted March 24, 2014 Don't know what you hinted at, which is why I asked. Don't own a helicopter, don't fly them for a living. Not really qualified to counsel on either one then. That's why I asked. 2 Quote
air_1 Posted March 24, 2014 Posted March 24, 2014 I know I said in the beginning that I'd heard of a guy who flew a helicycle to 1000 hours then got hired flying tours in the ditch, but I'm beginning to think that's more of a myth? There was a guy on a different forum who flew the Helicycle for 1000 or so hours and got a job in the gulf, but haven't heard about one getting one in the ditch. Quote
pilot#476398 Posted March 24, 2014 Posted March 24, 2014 Don't own a helicopter, don't fly them for a living. Not really qualified to counsel on either one then. Well I guess that's why my post began with a question, and the follow up was what "I" would rather do? Quote
Flying Pig Posted March 24, 2014 Posted March 24, 2014 I think the issue is that unless someone really follows your posts, your deal can be confusing. In one discussion you write about how you don't want to fly for a living and that all you want to do is just own a hell-cycle and fly on your own terms, but in other discussions, you talk about not being able to find a job, cant get interviews, commenting to others who are trying to find jobs. Nothing wrong with either one, but depending on which discussion posts someone reads, on one hand you are a recreational pilot with no ambitions of flying for a living, and in another you are talking about not being able to get interviews and wanting to fly tours in the grand canyon. 1 Quote
pilot#476398 Posted March 24, 2014 Posted March 24, 2014 I think the issue is that unless someone really follows your posts, your deal can be confusing. In one discussion you write about how you don't want to fly for a living and that all you want to do is just own a hell-cycle and fly on your own terms, but in other discussions, you talk about not being able to find a job, cant get interviews, commenting to others who are trying to find jobs. Nothing wrong with either one, but depending on which discussion posts someone reads, on one hand you are a recreational pilot with no ambitions of flying for a living, and in another you are talking about not being able to get interviews and wanting to fly tours in the grand canyon. Sorry, I thought when I mentioned that I don't really have any ambitions of a flying career that I also mentioned that I was just looking into this as a retirement job? Quote
avbug Posted March 25, 2014 Posted March 25, 2014 A retirement job? Half your career is spent getting to the job so that you can retire. Quote
pilot#476398 Posted March 25, 2014 Posted March 25, 2014 All I want to do is spend my 50s/60s flying tours for someone like Papillon. Shouldn't take half a career to get there, just a few seasons flying tours in a 44 should do it. Quote
avbug Posted March 26, 2014 Posted March 26, 2014 Good luck. Don't worry about seeking advice from those who are working as aviators. You've got it all worked out, so you should be fine. Quote
avbug Posted March 27, 2014 Posted March 27, 2014 Good for you. One has to love know-it-all's who have not been there and never done that. So convinced of what they don't know. Good on ya. 3 Quote
pilot#476398 Posted March 27, 2014 Posted March 27, 2014 You're so threatened by someone who doesn't want to be you! Quote
Spike Posted March 27, 2014 Posted March 27, 2014 All I want to do is spend my 50s/60s flying tours for someone like Papillon. I plan on doing the same……. I wonder who’ll make it past the initial interview……. 1 Quote
pilot#476398 Posted March 27, 2014 Posted March 27, 2014 I plan on doing the same……. I wonder who’ll make it past the initial interview……. Well I don't know you from Adam. However I've already spoken with them a few times at Heliexpo and they've always been very freindly. So after a few seasons flying tours in a 44 I think my chances are pretty good! Quote
Spike Posted March 27, 2014 Posted March 27, 2014 Well I don't know you from Adam. However I've already spoken with them a few times at Heliexpo and they've always been very freindly. So after a few seasons flying tours in a 44 I think my chances are pretty good! Truthfully, as a retirement gig, I initially wanted to be an astronaut and fly to the moon. However, being a realist, I don’t think it’s going to happen…… Then again, anything is possible….. Quote
cburg Posted March 27, 2014 Posted March 27, 2014 I applied for Mars One for my retirement gig...but alas...they passed me over: https://www.mars-one.com/ Quote
apacheguy Posted March 27, 2014 Posted March 27, 2014 I applied for Mars One for my retirement gig...but alas...they passed me over: https://www.mars-one.com/What's the starting pay for that gig? Quote
cburg Posted March 28, 2014 Posted March 28, 2014 What's the starting pay for that gig?Not sure but free funeral services...either enroute or on Mars. Quote
avbug Posted March 28, 2014 Posted March 28, 2014 You're so threatened by someone who doesn't want to be you! Threatened? In now way, shape, or form. I couldn't care less who you want to be. I'm quite certain you can't be me; that job is already taken, thanks. I plan on holding it until dead. However I've already spoken with them a few times at Heliexpo and they've always been very freindly. Now there's some serious, hard-core market research. No wonder you're such an expert. So after a few seasons flying tours in a 44 I think my chances are pretty good! Absolutely. One would be shocked should they not immediately promote you to Chief Pilot, of course. It's always entertaining to hear from those who look on the career and see it as a retirement hobby. Quote
pilot#476398 Posted March 28, 2014 Posted March 28, 2014 I'm talking about getting experience flying tours in a 44, a job who's minimums are 500hrs, then going for the ditch a 1000hr entry level turbine job that almost everyone I've talked to about views as merely a stepping stone job they must endure to get where they want,...aside from myself. You make it seem like I'm trying to jump right into HEMS as my first job as a pilot! You're so threatened by me that you have to change what I say to fit your rantings! As usual dude, you're good for a laugh! Quote
cburg Posted March 28, 2014 Posted March 28, 2014 I am in the very early stages of considering the purchase of a Mosquito XET. If it was going to be the exclusive scope of my experience to offer to a commercial operator, I would be worried about my chances.I considered the HC, Mosquito, and Tubine Exec too when I was shopping. What aspects of the Mosquito do you like best? Quote
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