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Trying to get some information for my son so he can make his decision on WOFT.   I know the ADSO is now 10 years at the end of flight training, but what else adds additional ADSO?   This “tracking” I keep reading about says 2 years ADSO, is this added to the 10 and makes 12?   Getting promoted to CW2 and higher, does this add more ADSO?    Does picking a certain airframe increase ADSO?  How does one do their job and not and more years to their ADSO?   He is not interested in being a career pilot, just the 11 1/2 to 12 years and out.    
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If it works the way it does now most ADSOs incurred during the IERW ADSO run concurrently. The common stuff like promotion, track schools, tuition assistance, PCS, etc all run concurrently. At 12 years he might as well stick around for 20, there's not another job he can get out and do for those eight years and get paid the rest of his life. 

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At 12 years he might as well stick around for 20, there's not another job he can get out and do for those eight years and get paid the rest of his life. 

The Army has a new Blended retirement system so the 20 or none legacy system is gone.

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2 hours ago, Soon2be2LT said:

The Army has a new Blended retirement system so the 20 or none legacy system is gone.

Yes, but you don't get your TSP until 59 like a normal retirement account. Retiring at 20 means your pension starts that day rather than 20+ years later.

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On 7/28/2020 at 7:39 PM, Thedude said:

If it works the way it does now most ADSOs incurred during the IERW ADSO run concurrently. The common stuff like promotion, track schools, tuition assistance, PCS, etc all run concurrently.

This is correct.

Also, getting out at 9 years felt good.  I'm sure 12 years will feel the same for some folks.  I accomplished everything I wanted to in the Army, made memories, served my country, and it was time to move on.   

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How do you get out in 12 years?  If you track or promote does that not add more time to your original ADSO?   

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40 minutes ago, Jesslee said:

How do you get out in 12 years?  If you track or promote does that not add more time to your original ADSO?   

You basically have to ask permission to be let out after your ADSO is complete. Most of the common things like promotion and schools run at the same time as your IERW ADSO. Unless you incur an ADSO in the last couple years you can get out at the end of your IERW ADSO. 

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Oh ok, that’s good to know.   So if you track for IP and incur additional ADSO it would run consecutively with your enlisted ADSO?  Thanks

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Concurrently. If you have six years left on your ADSO when you track, your track ADSO would end while there's still four years left on the original ADSO. 

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As an officer there is no enlistment, which means no set date which your son will be released.  Officers service lengths are indefinite, and do not terminate at the completion of an ADSO like an enlistment.  There are only two ways for an officer to separate from the military, voluntarily or involuntarily.  You request to get out, or you get told to get out.  But there is no "serving your time" and then getting out.

As an example, my flight school ADSO brought me just over 8 years of service.  However, I moved (changed duty station) close to the end of that, which ended up adding about 6 more months to my commitment.  After 8.5 years of service I had no obligation to the Army, but I wasn't free to just get out.  If I desired to I would have needed to request a resignation.  If I timed it right I could have started the process to request my release and probably gotten out at the completion of my ADSO, but that has to be done months and months in advance.  It's also possible to get a waiver and be released early, but it's very rare.

Generally, an officer must be promoted to be retained.  On the second attempt if they don't get promoted they give up to 6 months and then they're out. In my case, my job had disappeared and I knew I wouldn't be promoted, so I waited to be involuntarily separated by being passed over for promotion.  This granted me a severance and some additional benefits I would not have received by a normal request to separate.  This is usually not an option, but the retirement of the OH-58D opened that avenue to me.  I served in that capacity until I absolutely couldn't anymore, which brought me to 9 years and 3 months of service.

Cliff's Notes:

ADSOs keep an officer in the service until they are complete, but once an ADSO is complete an officer will still serve indefinitely until they request to separate or get kicked out.  There is no mechanism for an automatic release, and even when kicked out there is a lengthy process to separate from the military.

 

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