Gulf HR Minimums???

flying high · February 8, 2008

I heard PHI upped the anty to 1500 but what about Air Log and RCL are they asking for more now?? Thanks

BOATFIXERGUY · February 8, 2008

Pretty much. Air Log (Bristow) shows FAA 135 minimums as needed, while RCL is 1250 hrs and Era shows 1500. All require instrument now.

PhotoFlyer · February 8, 2008

I haven't seen anything from Airlog, but have heard they also went to 1500 PIC. RLC is 1250 total, 500 PIC now.

BOATFIXERGUY · February 8, 2008

Not really sure for the increase all of a sudden. I read PHI's stock report and in it they say their biggest obstacle is finding pilots. Raising the minimums doesn't help that at all.

helonorth · February 8, 2008

Not really sure for the increase all of a sudden. I read PHI's stock report and in it they say their biggest obstacle is finding pilots. Raising the minimums doesn't help that at all.

What really sucks it that I was a month from having my 1000 hours....now....damn..

I think there are a few reasons. The GOM is pretty strong on pilots right now. They have tons of

resumes from 1001 hour pilots, they can now afford to demand more experience. It's also

winter, which slows things down a lot. Come spring, things may change. SSH

probably had something to do with it, too. They would have eventually created a real glut.

Edited February 9, 2008 by helonorth

PhotoFlyer · February 8, 2008

Off topic, but, I don't understand why things would slow down in winter. You would think it would be busier to keep up with the winter oil use.

BOATFIXERGUY · February 8, 2008

SSH helicopters probably had something to do with it, too. They would have eventually created a real glut.

I was thinking about that, but I would think it hurts the overall pilot population in the short term. The way I see it is that SSH had 2700 or so students and that they would be ready for commercial work in 2 to 4 years....now, I know that all of them will never make it to 1000 hours, but the industry will take longer to recover from the shortfall created by the SSH collapse. All of a sudden, that pool of upcoming pilots is gone, or at the least delayed by years.

What do you think?

John90290 · February 9, 2008

I was thinking about that, but I would think it hurts the overall pilot population in the short term. The way I see it is that SSH had 2700 or so students and that they would be ready for commercial work in 2 to 4 years....now, I know that all of them will never make it to 1000 hours, but the industry will take longer to recover from the shortfall created by the SSH collapse. All of a sudden, that pool of upcoming pilots is gone, or at the least delayed by years.

What do you think?

My guess would have been 10% would have made made it from zero to 1000k in 2-4 years. Just a guess but it seems right given the long road and expense to a GOM job from zero time. 2-4 years is plenty of time to change your mind, loose your day job, get divorced, go broke or all of the above in any order it happens to occur.

-John

Oil Pilot · February 9, 2008

Not really sure for the increase all of a sudden. I read PHI's stock report and in it they say their biggest obstacle is finding pilots. Raising the minimums doesn't help that at all.

What really sucks it that I was a month from having my 1000 hours....now....damn..

PHI has too many pilots right now. There are a few that come to work to fly the couch every week until things balance out.

Rotorcraft is fully staffed with the occasional slot opening up due to attrition.

Air Log is not fully staffed and as long as it doesn't say "Trained at SilverState Helicopters" on your resume, you should be just fine to get a job this spring.

You probably want to work at Air Log anyway if you really want to build flight time. The only issue there is contract negotiations coming up, but it "SHOULD" go infinitely smoother than PHI's.

mechanic · February 9, 2008

My guess would have been 10% would have made made it from zero to 1000k in 2-4 years. Just a guess but it seems right given the long road and expense to a GOM job from zero time. 2-4 years is plenty of time to change your mind, loose your day job, get divorced, go broke or all of the above in any order it happens to occur.

-John

Hahhahaha,

Ya, my plan back in July 04', was get thru training and be getting close to going to the GOM soon by now. But, I am still working on my PPL! 2 Hurricanes, a 11 day stay in a childrens hospital with my youngest girl, and another med condition with my oldest girl thats still ongoing, has delayed things pretty good for me. I don't know what I am going to do. I don't want to have to quit but, my oldest is pressing me for a car and heading off to college this fall..... Plus I am still having to pay Dr. bills... Just work work work to pay da man, oh ya, I am out of deferment and having to pay my flight loan now, too..

Gomer Pylot · February 10, 2008

Winter is slow because of the weather. The oil companies don't plan on doing much drilling or maintenance, because they know the fog sets in and it's hard to plan on flying, plus the wind and seas pick up. Production has little to do with demand.

mountainchopper · February 11, 2008

I checked PHI's web site and it still says 1000hrs. If Air Log is saying 135PIC minimums if you meet that criteria, but are a ways away from 1000, would it still be worth their while to send in your resume and give them a call? I know the worst they can do is say no, but I'm not looking to get on anyone's nerves.

mechanic, don't feel bad about taking longer than the advertised "2yrs to your 1000" norm. I've gone 2 years of doing this full time and still don't have a 1000. The GOM isn't the only place flying grinds to a halt in winter, thats how its been for me as a CFII on his second winter.

helonorth · February 11, 2008

The GOM doesn't "grind to a halt" but it does slow down. I was on a nice contract flying to a

ship. They were doing work on a sunken platform from Rita. Because of fog delays and high

seas, they elected to shut down for the winter. Production goes on as normal, but construction

and everything else non-essential waits until spring, as far as I can tell. They certainly don't

plan much of anything.

dave7373 · August 6, 2008

The GOM doesn't "grind to a halt" but it does slow down. I was on a nice contract flying to a
ship. They were doing work on a sunken platform from Rita. Because of fog delays and high
seas, they elected to shut down for the winter. Production goes on as normal, but construction
and everything else non-essential waits until spring, as far as I can tell. They certainly don't
plan much of anything.

PHi's minimum is 1000 and I've seen pilots there with 1100ish, they seem to

care alot about professionalism too.

rotormandan · August 7, 2008

I heard PHI upped the anty to 1500 but what about Air Log and RCL are they asking for more now?? Thanks

Where did you hear this? An add is posted on JSFIRM from PHI and AIRLOG with 1000pic requirements both posted on 8-1-08.

http://www.jsfirm.com/searchjobs.asp

RCL is only 1200 as of the post of JH on the same day

http://www.justhelicopters.com/employment/...?iChannel=10000

I think its been that way for awhile.

dave7373 · August 10, 2008

Where did you hear this? An add is posted on JSFIRM from PHI and AIRLOG with 1000pic requirements both posted on 8-1-08.

http://www.jsfirm.com/searchjobs.asp

RCL is only 1200 as of the post of JH on the same day

http://www.justhelicopters.com/employment/...?iChannel=10000

I think its been that way for awhile.

With all of the new pilots RLC will need for their 53 new ships they may be lax on that 1200#

Rat · August 12, 2008

With offshore drilling very likely to increase soon (hopefully), I'm curious if the minimum hour requirements will drop. Anyone have an idea if California is going to lift the ban ? Arnold should allow it with our state being so broke.

Edited August 12, 2008 by Rat

67november · August 12, 2008

With all of the new pilots RLC will need for their 53 new ships they may be lax on that 1200#

With offshore drilling very likely to increase soon (hopefully), I'm curious if the minimum hour requirements will drop. Anyone have an idea if California is going to lift the ban ? Arnold should allow it with our state being so broke.

with both comments being relivent, the key factor is making sure your resume' is in order.

just remember a resume' is a snapshot of your experience and it's up to you to present the rest of the picture to the prospective employer at the time of the interview.

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BOATFIXERGUY · August 14, 2008

with both comments being relivent, the key factor is making sure your resume' is in order.

just remember a resume' is a snapshot of your experience and it's up to you to present the rest of the picture to the prospective employer at the time of the interview.

PM me w/?'s

If you ask 67NOVEMBER really nice, he'll take your crappy resume (like mine was) and fix it for you! Once he re-did mine, I got an offer the same day!

Gomer Pylot · August 14, 2008

Don't bet on a quick increase in drilling. Even McCain, the main pusher of increased drilling, has admitted that lifting the ban will have only a psychological effect. The oil companies are already sitting on millions of acres of undrilled leases, and have to get waivers to keep many of them because they can't drill and develop what they have, nevermind other unexplored areas. Wishful thinking has little to do with reality.

nocarsgo · August 17, 2008

Yeah you're right about that, Gomer. I think the number is around 68 million or something. The opening up of more land definitely isn't going to change much, at least not any time soon.