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#21 Barney45

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Posted 10 September 2018 - 19:31

While it is just icing on the cake, I am supposed to receive a bonus at the completion of flight school. Ill be skeptical until I see it on my LES. Im a reservist so maybe its due to my airframe.

As for cool guy schools, I never had the opportunity go during my first enlistment. I was a pogue NG guy so the funding just wasnt there unless you were combat arms.
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Posted 10 September 2018 - 20:32

Soo that begs the question, what "extra" did you get in your contract?

 

 

Still working on it. I want to do as much research as I can on this subject. Maybe ill call around to a few other recruiters and ask them if one says no.



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Posted 10 September 2018 - 20:32

Soo that begs the question, what "extra" did you get in your contract?

 

 

Still working on it. I want to do as much research as I can on this subject. Maybe ill call around to a few other recruiters and ask them if one says no.



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Posted 10 September 2018 - 20:38

You dont negotiate anything with a recruiter about where you will live, ever. Thats simply not how it works. You will live in the barracks for the duration of basic training, WOCS and SERE. After completion of WOCS you are authorized BAH if you want to live off post or can opt for on post housing paid for by your BAH. BAH is a monthly entitlement and has nothing to do with selling a house.

Before coming on a forum and posting a bunch of bullshit you need to educate yourself.

 

 

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#25 Pluto

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Posted 10 September 2018 - 20:42

Yeah again Im not too believing on this considering I signed for three years of 11b and got 1000 dollar bonus during the war

 

 

Max props for doing that. It's always worth negotiating. Prime example right here folks. They even go so far are to market it towards kids. Because they know that when you are younger you are less likely to negotiate the contract. And will do it for less money.

 

I see stuff like: "parent night" and think about how 1/2 the army is under 25 and how I can at-least do what I can to bring them home to there parents safely.



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Posted 10 September 2018 - 20:58

While it is just icing on the cake, I am supposed to receive a bonus at the completion of flight school. Ill be skeptical until I see it on my LES. Im a reservist so maybe its due to my airframe.

As for cool guy schools, I never had the opportunity go during my first enlistment. I was a pogue NG guy so the funding just wasnt there unless you were combat arms.

 

 

Thank you for mentioning that. How much was your bonus for? 



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Posted 10 September 2018 - 21:05

They don't market to kids to save money on enlistment bonuses bro.
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Posted 10 September 2018 - 21:15

 
 
Thank you for mentioning that. How much was your bonus for? 


20k at completion of advanced airframe.
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Posted 10 September 2018 - 21:29

I was accepted through WOFT, so Im assuming getting to go to flight school is a good enough benefit haha.

Yes, the army officer is one of the most respected positions in the military and civilian world. It's up there with doctor or lawyer. It does great things for your confidence. Just remember to remain humble about your accomplishments. Or most people wont respect your arrogance.



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Posted 11 September 2018 - 00:07

You can't troll me I am troll proof.


It’s not trolling, just pointing out the simple truth that you have no idea what you are posting about.
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Posted 11 September 2018 - 01:59

 

 

5)You can negotiate if you stay on or off base during WOFT training. By default you will be staying on base. If you buy a house, you can get the BAH pay when you sell it. 

 

 

 

Fake news.

 

There's no default, there's no negotiations with a recruiter about this sh*t. You either apply to live on post or get a place off post.  mandatory barracks = BASIC/WOCS/SERE



#32 Pluto

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Posted 11 September 2018 - 20:42

Well I hear one thing here, then another from my recruiter. who ever is correct is fine with me. It's more about the line of work that your in. It's the respectable thing to do. Money always comes and goes. But if you do a good job. You have a chance of going down in history. That's pretty amazing.



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Posted 12 September 2018 - 14:52

It’s not trolling, just pointing out the simple truth that you have no idea what you are posting about.

I don't want to quarrel with you. Over exadurating things like your doing is how you start an argument. Combined with mocking me and putting my words in bold letters. Is what the definition of a troll is. So why don't you read this. Then stop making replies to posts that are supposed to be helpful, then changing it into an opportunity to harass the person who is trying to help you. Thank you.

 

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Posted 12 September 2018 - 15:10

I don't want to quarrel with you. Over exadurating things like your doing is how you start an argument. Combined with mocking me and putting my words in bold letters. Is what the definition of a troll is. So why don't you read this. Then stop making replies to posts that are supposed to be helpful, then changing it into an opportunity to harass the person who is trying to help you. Thank you.
 
https://en.wikipedia.../Internet_troll


You aren’t helping me or anyone with posts that are full of false information. You might think you’re helping people but if you don’t research and verify the information you provide you are doing a disservice to everyone who reads and might believe it. I don’t care to argue at all but I will point out when people are posting stuff that is untrue.

You might not believe me but the military is not a nice place. If you join and continue to act in the manner you present yourself online you will be mocked, ridiculed and criticized until you fix yourself.
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Posted 12 September 2018 - 15:40

You aren’t helping me or anyone with posts that are full of false information. You might think you’re helping people but if you don’t research and verify the information you provide you are doing a disservice to everyone who reads and might believe it. I don’t care to argue at all but I will point out when people are posting stuff that is untrue.

You might not believe me but the military is not a nice place. If you join and continue to act in the manner you present yourself online you will be mocked, ridiculed and criticized until you fix yourself.

 

 

You don't understand. I was just going with what my recruiter told me. He told me he is working on getting something in writing for me. So I can have the BAH while in WOFT. I presume that I can take that and go live off base some where. Because it's unlikely they will give you both. But I could be wrong. He seems to think it is unlikely. But possible. 

 

I don't expect the military to be a "nice" place. But I do expect you to respect the people who you see on a daily basis. If it's somebody who you don't see very often then that's not a huge deal. But as far as I am concerned you should treat others the way you want to be treated. The teams that verbally abuse each other lose more often than the teams that work together. 



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Posted 12 September 2018 - 16:21

You don't understand. I was just going with what my recruiter told me. He told me he is working on getting something in writing for me. So I can have the BAH while in WOFT. I presume that I can take that and go live off base some where. Because it's unlikely they will give you both. But I could be wrong. He seems to think it is unlikely. But possible. 


I actually do understand. It’s a ton of new information for you to sort through and try to figure out. My issue is with how you came on the forums and presented stuff as facts when they are not. I have no problems with you wanting to find out what your benefits and entitlements would be if you joined.

If you are married and own/lease/rent when you leave for basic training you will be entitled to receive BAH at whatever rate your rank is. You will receive it even though you are in government provided barracks because it is an entitlement to provide housing for your family. If you are not married you will not receive BAH until after graduating WOCS. Upon graduation and appointment to WO1 you are entitled to BAH whether you are married or not. You can chose to live on or off post. On post housing will automatically deduct your BAH from your pay and you will not personally pay for rent or most utilities. Off post is entirely up to you as to how much you want to spend and where you want to live.
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Posted 12 September 2018 - 16:37

I actually do understand. Its a ton of new information for you to sort through and try to figure out. My issue is with how you came on the forums and presented stuff as facts when they are not. I have no problems with you wanting to find out what your benefits and entitlements would be if you joined.

If you are married and own/lease/rent when you leave for basic training you will be entitled to receive BAH at whatever rate your rank is. You will receive it even though you are in government provided barracks because it is an entitlement to provide housing for your family. If you are not married you will not receive BAH until after graduating WOCS. Upon graduation and appointment to WO1 you are entitled to BAH whether you are married or not. You can chose to live on or off post. On post housing will automatically deduct your BAH from your pay and you will not personally pay for rent or most utilities. Off post is entirely up to you as to how much you want to spend and where you want to live.


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Posted 13 September 2018 - 16:14

I actually do understand. It’s a ton of new information for you to sort through and try to figure out. My issue is with how you came on the forums and presented stuff as facts when they are not. I have no problems with you wanting to find out what your benefits and entitlements would be if you joined.

If you are married and own/lease/rent when you leave for basic training you will be entitled to receive BAH at whatever rate your rank is. You will receive it even though you are in government provided barracks because it is an entitlement to provide housing for your family. If you are not married you will not receive BAH until after graduating WOCS. Upon graduation and appointment to WO1 you are entitled to BAH whether you are married or not. You can chose to live on or off post. On post housing will automatically deduct your BAH from your pay and you will not personally pay for rent or most utilities. Off post is entirely up to you as to how much you want to spend and where you want to live.

 

I'll run this up anyway next time I'm talking to the NCO in charge of training, but off-hand do you know if this applies to Guard? I'm married and wife was wondering if I'll be getting BAH while in WOCS. Also going to be going for the BAH waiver given we own and won't be selling our primary residence in Mass. 

 

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Posted 13 September 2018 - 18:37

 
I'll run this up anyway next time I'm talking to the NCO in charge of training, but off-hand do you know if this applies to Guard? I'm married and wife was wondering if I'll be getting BAH while in WOCS. Also going to be going for the BAH waiver given we own and won't be selling our primary residence in Mass. 
 
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You will receive BAH since you are on active orders, not sure on how the waiver process for location will work.
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Posted 13 September 2018 - 19:26

You will receive BAH since you are on active orders, not sure on how the waiver process for location will work.

 

Pretty sure that you only get the BAH if the orders are over 30 days (not including boot camp), but maybe that was for unmarried reservists/guard... I got married a month after my last period of active duty in 2014 (AT), but I never got BAH during Boot/SOI or any of my ATs from 2008-2014. I guess I'll ask this question as well, should be going on orders for a couple weeks this fall. BAH in my area is over 3K/month, so its not chump change. 

 

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