mforesta Posted April 26, 2012 Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 Do you get your final clearance before you ship to bct? What is involved in getting one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akscott60 Posted April 26, 2012 Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 I believe most are finished while you are there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mforesta Posted April 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 That worries me, I have a little past marijuana use that I'm going to admit to, but I'm still worried I could get screwed. Is there a way to have your final clearance before you go just to be sure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWeStand111 Posted April 26, 2012 Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 You can admit it, but you won't be able to join i think. I always hear recruiters say do not admit anything like that, unless you got arrested for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mforesta Posted April 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 That's stupid if I lie and they catch me I'm done. If I'm upfront about past expirementation they might be forgiving. Besides you have to have some integrity in this life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t.o.n.y Posted April 26, 2012 Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 I was interviewed for my clearance three months ago and haven't heard a thing. Leave for BCT soon. Asked the recruiter about it and he said since neither of us have heard anything I should be good. If there was an issue one of us probably would have been contacted by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grind Posted April 26, 2012 Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 You can admit it, but you won't be able to join i think. I always hear recruiters say do not admit anything like that, unless you got arrested for it. Don't give out advice unless you've actually been through the process 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cryesis Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 how long ago was the usage? have you discussed it with the recruiter at all? If it is past experimentation from a few years back you should be fine. Just make sure you phrase everything the right way and make yourself look professional. It was something you may have done as a "stupid kid" hanging out with the wrong crowd and you acknowledged that and changed enough to fix the problem as well as do something with your life, some people like to see that and admire it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mforesta Posted April 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 how long ago was the usage? have you discussed it with the recruiter at all? If it is past experimentation from a few years back you should be fine. Just make sure you phrase everything the right way and make yourself look professional. It was something you may have done as a "stupid kid" hanging out with the wrong crowd and you acknowledged that and changed enough to fix the problem as well as do something with your life, some people like to see that and admire it. I'm gonna start the process at the beginning of my senior year of college so about 16 months from now. by then it will have been about two-two and a half years. It was about 10 times over 6 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWeStand111 Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 Will this require a waiver? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBuzzkill Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 Don't ever lie. That's just stupid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cryesis Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 two and a half years ago, you tried it and didnt like it so stopped. It wasnt really your thing and you wanted to do something with your life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mforesta Posted April 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 True that, true that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotdogs Posted April 28, 2012 Report Share Posted April 28, 2012 Will this require a waiver? Absolutely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mforesta Posted April 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2012 Moral waiver? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotdogs Posted April 28, 2012 Report Share Posted April 28, 2012 Moral waiver? Typically any type of prior drug usage requires a waiver. In the past it has been typically a administrative process with the waiver barring any serious addiction or hard drugs - it usually gets approved. However given today's economy and the competition I am not so sure. Be honest and ask. Your recruiter should be there to help you work through these things. It's also WOFT and not OCS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cryesis Posted April 28, 2012 Report Share Posted April 28, 2012 I never heard of a waiver being required unless it was a real problem requiring treatment or ended up getting you in trouble with the law. The recruiter would definetly know best and have the most up to date information on the subject. When the recruiter asked you pre screening questions either over the phone or at your first meeting with him what was your answer then? He will be looking for any deviation from that original answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotdogs Posted April 28, 2012 Report Share Posted April 28, 2012 I never heard of a waiver being required This is common knowledge in all the services. Any type of clearance specifically mentions this type of stuff. I've had OPM guys go back and ask high school buddies about drug usage and alcohol consumption. Others things such as debt, credit history, and overseas affiliations are also discussed in depth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mforesta Posted April 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2012 So how does the investigation differ from secret to top secret? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cryesis Posted April 28, 2012 Report Share Posted April 28, 2012 This is common knowledge in all the services. Any type of clearance specifically mentions this type of stuff. I've had OPM guys go back and ask high school buddies about drug usage and alcohol consumption. Others things such as debt, credit history, and overseas affiliations are also discussed in depth. ah, so its a waiver for "clearance" not to join Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edspilot Posted April 29, 2012 Report Share Posted April 29, 2012 I am not clear as to which you are speaking of: a: clearance to be hired into the service or b: clearing a background investigation to get a "security clearance"? I have NO idea as to my question a. I do have answers to b. Post which you are speaking of and I'll try to help, if it is b. Be safe, edspilot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotdogs Posted April 29, 2012 Report Share Posted April 29, 2012 So how does the investigation differ from secret to top secret? TS is way more in depth. Like they go back and talk to your 6th and 7th grade teachers in depth. Depends on the job and compartment of the position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotdogs Posted April 29, 2012 Report Share Posted April 29, 2012 ah, so its a waiver for "clearance" not to join No - a waiver to join. Enlisted or Officer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cryesis Posted April 29, 2012 Report Share Posted April 29, 2012 (edited) never heard of needing a waiver to enter as long as you pass the test at meps Edited April 29, 2012 by cryesis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotdogs Posted April 29, 2012 Report Share Posted April 29, 2012 never heard of needing a waiver to enter as long as you pass the test at meps That's incorrect. Regardless of path chosen to join the military. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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