FLYC2A Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 Just wondering how much its going to hurt me NOT having a degree.......and does being prior service in aviation really help that much ? i know everyone asks, so i guess i will too. What are my chances ???? I understand its anyones guess but wouldn't mind anyone throwing thier thoughts out there. Here are my stats so far 30yrs old Prior service- NAVY (E-5) 5 years active duty (aviation background as stated above) High School - Graduated College-UNLV student (Mech. Engineering)84 credits in my major (110+ credits total which include my stuff from the military and other colleges) PRK- done by the Navy LOR(s)- (4 total)(1) Commander rank O-5 (2) Lt.Commander rank O-4 (1) Chief petty officer retired rank E-7 AFPT- did not complete yet, but i have done a practice test recently...i am probably about a 230 right now, im going to keep working out and will improve on that score a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindsey Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 Another guy that used to be one here had just graduated from high school, 18 years old. Right now he's just started the Kiowa course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBuzzkill Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 Almost everyone I know who went street to seat has at least a 4 year degree. That said, I don't have a degree and I made it. Your chances are as good as you can write an essay, put together a resume, get awesome letters of rec, blow the aptitude test away, blow the ASVAB away, pass the physical, do on the APFT, look good in your DA photo, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindsey Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 And of course there is the standard line of your chances being zero if you don't apply--I am the shining example of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akscott60 Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 I dont have a degree. A good chunk of woft guys and gals do, but its not a requirement. Go for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLYC2A Posted September 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 Im taking the SIFT next month.....already sent my PRK paper work and that took almost 2 months to get approved, so atleast thats out of the way. I wonder how much an aviation background helps....i been through a bunch of aviation maintenance courses which are all listed on one of my transcrips so they will see that for sure. I just really want to get accepted and this month all 19 out of 33 people had degrees which is why i was asking. thanks for the input Oh by the way.... i have 900+ flight hours as a backseater in the Navy but i doubt they care about that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myrtle21 Posted September 20, 2012 Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 You can still have a job if you don't have that degree you're aiming for. But if you really want a thing and it is your ambition to get that thing that you wanted all your life, much better if you take a degree. It's a matter of preference. But you'll have a job if only you want it to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaurus Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 flyc2a The last WOFT selection board was held 2 weeks ago. Below are the stats for civilians/prior service applicants. 33 boarded, 19 selected, all but one had either a bachelors or a masters. The other selectee had a 2 yr AS dgree. Is it possible? Possibly but why swim up stream. Complete the degree with over a 3.0 GPA and then apply if time permitting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindsey Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 Or apply and keep applying until you are selected. Continue working on your degree. These two things are not mutually exclusive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
01CelicaGTS Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 I agree with Lindsey. I don't know why people would not even submit a packet for fear that one thing may not be looked at favorably by the board. Just submit, you get 2 free looks, and if your not selected, keep trucking away at that degree. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLYC2A Posted September 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 Yeah....i am going to apply while finishing my school, which i think will take me 2 more years. Thats puts me at 33. I personally know of 2 people from las vegas(where i live) that had gotten accepted in jan.2011 without a completed degree(one had 80 college credits, the other had 35 credits) and they didn't have prior service under thier belt. IMO...that was then, this is now. 2011 was a GREAT year to apply, now were at 2013(fy2013 starts oct 2012) so well see. I must add that one of my letters is from an 0-5 commander who works in the Pentagon....and my LOR had a header from "DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE, pentagon drive address" So i am hoping that my prior service, my college thus far and really GOOD LORs(3 higher ranking Navy officer pilots, and 1 ret. upper enlisted) will put me over the hump.Some people said, LORs are probably equally as important as college....others disagree. I guess im going to find out pretty soon (dec/jan) either way. So who is taking the SIFT the first part of OCT ??????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t.o.n.y Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 Must had a degree of some kind, but not all. Those who didn't at least had prior experience. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t.o.n.y Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 Most... In my class at least Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLYC2A Posted September 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 Must had a degree of some kind, but not all. Those who didn't at least had prior experience. you mean prior service ? or prior aviation (pilot) experience as a civilian? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t.o.n.y Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 I don't recall any civilian selections in my class without a degree (AA-MA) but some prior service were picked up without any degree. There were only a few though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLYC2A Posted September 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 I don't recall any civilian selections in my class without a degree (AA-MA) but some prior service were picked up without any degree. There were only a few though. I got 110+ college credits and prior service(aviation aircrew & maintance tech) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobsyouruncle Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 I don't think being prior aviation will make any difference unless you have flight hours as a crewmember. If you have flight hours, put them on your resumee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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