Flying Pig Posted April 18, 2014 Posted April 18, 2014 The only thing I would suggest to VA student And I don't even know if it can be done is to take a long line course in a 22 or S300 and see if you can get the $5000 in S300 time. Instead of 5hrs of LL you could end up with 15-20. I'm sure it's doesn't work that way..... But who knows. The schools sell it to the VA as a 5hr course. Honestly.... I would do as much of my training as I could at night too. Quote
pilot#476398 Posted April 18, 2014 Posted April 18, 2014 I don't think the point of these new courses (like long line) is really to "better prepare new pilots for the job market". They're just for these schools to get their piece of the free money pie while it lasts. So doing them in anything smaller than a 206 would be counter productive to that goal! I could be wrong though, and there could be a whole slew of new pilots getting hired because of their 206/LL training?,...doubt it though! I did fly a 22 that had been set up (at one time) for long lining, so its possible, but I've never seen a school advertise long line training in a 22,...or at all, for that matter, just a handful of years ago! Quote
aeroscout Posted April 18, 2014 Posted April 18, 2014 2 pilots and full fuel in a R22 with a long line. How much external load can it lift ? I don't know the answer, but I have a good guess. Quote
pilot#476398 Posted April 18, 2014 Posted April 18, 2014 2 pilots and full fuel in a 22? Sorry, but you're gonna have to pick just one of those! Quote
aeroscout Posted April 19, 2014 Posted April 19, 2014 2 pilots and full fuel in a 22? Sorry, but you're gonna have to pick just one of those! Okay, one's not a pilot. Pilots are kind of fat anyway. I want to be the exception to that rule. Now that I think about it, make them both not pilots. We can save a lot more weight that way. Now how much will it sling ? Quote
Pohi Posted April 19, 2014 Posted April 19, 2014 http://www.onboardsystems.com/documentation/121-022-00.pdf Quote
Flying Pig Posted April 19, 2014 Posted April 19, 2014 I think it's just a plastic hook that glues into the bottom for the asthetic value. Sort of like fake boobs. Quote
Pohi Posted April 19, 2014 Posted April 19, 2014 (edited) Something you bolt on to make it more attractive and appealing to men? They claim it will carry 400 pounds. Edited April 19, 2014 by Pohi Quote
HeliNomad Posted April 19, 2014 Posted April 19, 2014 Speaking of turbine expiramental: http://www.kolotv.com/home/headlines/Helicopter-Crash-Leaves-One-Dead-At-Reno-Stead-Airport-255090661.html?device=tablet I believe this was a helicycle. Very sad... Quote
pilot#476398 Posted April 19, 2014 Posted April 19, 2014 Okay, one's not a pilot. Pilots are kind of fat anyway. I want to be the exception to that rule. Now that I think about it, make them both not pilots. We can save a lot more weight that way. Now how much will it sling ? Actually I was thinking more like either taking less gas or flying solo, but... As for saving weight by taking non pilots, think about this; We pilots have an incentive to stay at least below 200 lbs, the general public does not!,...and have you been to Sizzler? Quote
Flying Pig Posted April 19, 2014 Posted April 19, 2014 Something you bolt on to make it more attractive and appealing to men? They claim it will carry 400 pounds.Excuse me.... This is a family friendly site. Quote
Spike Posted April 19, 2014 Posted April 19, 2014 2 pilots and full fuel in a R22 with a long line. How much external load can it lift ? I don't know the answer, but I have a good guess. While at the time I had no desire to fly Vref, the school where I taught had a Vref course utilizing an R22 as the trainer. The training was conducted at a nearby uncontrolled airport with fuel services so student and CFI weight was easily mitigated. Additionally, a tire was used as the load.... Even though a couple of the instructors had no Vref beyond teaching the course, they were pretty were impressive with their skill, knowledge and technique….. Oh, this school had an R22 Ag course as well which included an STC approved spray boom…… Quote
JohnLeePettimore Posted April 19, 2014 Posted April 19, 2014 That's one thing I am worried about. I am 199 right now. I am 6' and bulky. When I was in Afghanistan, I went to the gym every day. Now I am regretting it. I should have stayed small. It's a lot harder to lose bulk. Quote
cburg Posted April 20, 2014 Posted April 20, 2014 Much to my wife's consternation I just got a Mosquito XET. I simply had to have it! 1 Quote
tradford Posted April 20, 2014 Posted April 20, 2014 Cburg, that's awesome! Did you pick up one of the two that were for sale down at the factory? I saw a silver one and a flat black one when I was down there for the fly in. Please log your experience, starting with the first flight. Hopefully I'll pass check ride 2 and then I'll be looking that way as well. Did you consider the Helicycle before you pulled the trigger? Tony 1 Quote
Jaybee Posted April 20, 2014 Posted April 20, 2014 Cburg, that's awesome! Did you pick up one of the two that were for sale down at the factory? I saw a silver one and a flat black one when I was down there for the fly in. Please log your experience, starting with the first flight. Hopefully I'll pass check ride 2 and then I'll be looking that way as well. Did you consider the Helicycle before you pulled the trigger? Tony Ditto. Quote
cburg Posted April 20, 2014 Posted April 20, 2014 It was a crazy thing. I was at the airport with my 269 and some kid with a factory built XET was there. I said "you want to trade?" and he said yes.. He's trying to become a pro and found out that the t-time was not that valuable. I whipped out the forms and the rest is history. Has a 13,000 trailer with it and a re-fueling system. Quote
pilot#476398 Posted April 20, 2014 Posted April 20, 2014 It was a crazy thing. I was at the airport with my 269 and some kid with a factory built XET was there. I said "you want to trade?" and he said yes.. He's trying to become a pro and found out that the t-time was not that valuable. I whipped out the forms and the rest is history. Has a 13,000 trailer with it and a re-fueling system. Awesome dude! I imagine that Mosquito's got to be loads more fun to fly than the 269! Well that's it 1000 posts,...Papillon here I come! Oh' wait, that's flight hours isn't it,...dammit! 1 Quote
Whistlerpilot Posted April 20, 2014 Posted April 20, 2014 (edited) Size matters, that's what she said. Edited April 20, 2014 by Whistlerpilot 1 Quote
Whistlerpilot Posted April 20, 2014 Posted April 20, 2014 Seriously though congrats Cburg have fun and be safe. To the guy who bought your 269 good call to get employable, and to Pilot # 4763981000 way to break a grand! Quote
cburg Posted April 21, 2014 Posted April 21, 2014 Just arrived in Argentina and heading offshore for a couple weeks. I'll post some photos...it's a sweet machine. Quote
JohnLeePettimore Posted April 22, 2014 Posted April 22, 2014 I still want one as a personal bird, but have decided that it's gonna have to wait a couple decades. Quote
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