TriViper Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 Spoke with a former Lt. Col and A-10 pilot in the Air Force today (an no, I don't consider him a friend). He says Army aviation is a joke and pilots should be recognized as "machine operators" instead of aviators. I wanted to tell him to "F-off", but I'd lose my civilian job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akscott60 Posted February 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 Sigh. Tell him to eat a dick. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wally Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 Spoke with a former Lt. Col and A-10 pilot in the Air Force today (an no, I don't consider him a friend). He says Army aviation is a joke and pilots should be recognized as "machine operators" instead of aviators. I wanted to tell him to "F-off", but I'd lose my civilian job. I've been told that the Air Force is considered part of the US military. They march in formation and everything (except the officers). 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBuzzkill Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 You should have seen our last attempt to march in formation. It was miserable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akscott60 Posted February 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 Yea no sh*t. D&C in a Kiowa line troop is NOT a pretty sight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velocity173 Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 Spoke with a former Lt. Col and A-10 pilot in the Air Force today (an no, I don't consider him a friend). He says Army aviation is a joke and pilots should be recognized as "machine operators" instead of aviators. I wanted to tell him to "F-off", but I'd lose my civilian job.Guys like this are a rarity but they're out there. Just another FW pilot who doesn't realize the importance RW plays in today's battlefield. Ask him when the last time he was actually in harms way; actually being engaged by the enemy. Then tell him 70 & 2. 70 RW aircraft lost due to hostile fire while flying in OEF/OIF, to 2 FW aircraft. Army, Marine & Air Force helos are in harms way every flight they take. I always tell people, you have pilots who fly in a combat zone and then you have combat pilots. Two completely seperate things. Anyone read Flying mag? In December's issue there's a story about an F-15E pilot's experience in OEF. Best part of the article is the description of an H-60 and an H-47 doing a resupply. Oh, how I hate ring routes . Anyway he describes how the helos take effective fire and amazed at how brave the pilots are. Good article if you get a chance to read it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotdogs Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 Spoke with a former Lt. Col and A-10 pilot in the Air Force today (an no, I don't consider him a friend). He says Army aviation is a joke and pilots should be recognized as "machine operators" instead of aviators. I wanted to tell him to "F-off", but I'd lose my civilian job. That's the Air Force attitude to pretty much anything that is not Air Force, they treat Navy and Marine Aviators with the same contempt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBuzzkill Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 That sucks. I hold you guys in a high regard as I do any other aviator regardless of their chosen service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_P148 Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 Yeah that's too bad but what really makes me wonder is if the Army is a bunch of machine operators what are Air Force aviators? Their sh*t is more automated than ours! Lol hypocrisy at its finest! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yamer Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 Dafuq??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akscott60 Posted February 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 Why is my thread defiled with a picture of a stupid R66? Yup, they want to certify slings and a glass cockpit in it. No matter what you do, its still a Robinson. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electron_si Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 I think he is picking up his lunch to take to work, thats about all the weight they can carry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wopilot Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 I work directly with a retired Lt Col A-10/B-1 guy and we have nothing but the utmost respect for each other. In fact, he says he doesn't know how we do it knowing we will take fire and see resistance on a daily basis.  I loved working CAS with A-10 guys. That guy is a one off douche who was probably stuck in TRADOC or Leavenworth. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joepatriot Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 I have 12 years in as a 15T and the more I read about the 47F the more I want to fly the big ugly bastards. Must...stay.....at.....top....of......OML Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akscott60 Posted February 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 AFCS-OFF sling loads are not easy. A 9000lb concrete block under the aircraft make me a bit uneasy. I gotta get used to this sh*t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velocity173 Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 AFCS-OFF sling loads are not easy. A 9000lb concrete block under the aircraft make me a bit uneasy. I gotta get used to this sh*t.Now put the goggles on and throw in some dust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akscott60 Posted February 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 Yea no sh*t. Tmw Im picking up the 19000lb block. Yahoo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yamer Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 More collective... Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akscott60 Posted February 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 More collective... Lol THRUST. We dont got no stinkin' collective Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yamer Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyreaper Posted February 14, 2014 Report Share Posted February 14, 2014 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akscott60 Posted February 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2014 19,200lb concrete block. Gross weight right at 50,000lbs. Â Took 85% TQ to pick it up and fly it off. Â What a beast. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wally Posted February 14, 2014 Report Share Posted February 14, 2014 19,200lb concrete block. Gross weight right at 50,000lbs. Took 85% TQ to pick it up and fly it off. What a beast. This is ignorant, but how much of available power is 85% TQ? I ask because some twins I've flown were limited at less than 100% with all engines running.And, from a "Slick Driver", to a "Bus Driver", just to keep it real: stong, yes; fast (unloaded) yes; but Hooks are still funny looking. Even when you come to get my busted Huey.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akscott60 Posted February 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2014 We had 100% TQ available today, dual engine. Single engine available was 123% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flim Posted February 14, 2014 Report Share Posted February 14, 2014 I'm sure it is dependent on altitude and temperature... Say on a hot day , max torque might be 88%. Is this correct ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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