akscott60 Posted May 28, 2014 Author Posted May 28, 2014 Hmm. Strange. He owes more than 2 years. More like 4. Quote
zVo Posted May 28, 2014 Posted May 28, 2014 What are the odds of someone with an ADSO getting released to an USAR/ARNG unit? I ask because I know the USAR was hurting for RW and FW pilots a few years ago; might be a seamless transition for those guys that want to keep a foot in with the military and keep flying. Quote
brackac Posted June 3, 2014 Posted June 3, 2014 Rumors are running wild. Little birdie said there will be less than 300 transitions offered to the 58 community. Quote
zVo Posted June 3, 2014 Posted June 3, 2014 Shocking but not too surprising with the way things are going lately... Quote
Diesel5187 Posted June 3, 2014 Posted June 3, 2014 What the hell am I getting into? I am wondering if I will even get to fly after I finish training. Quote
Diesel5187 Posted June 3, 2014 Posted June 3, 2014 sure you will... just not Kiowas! Probably not as much as I'd hoped... If I can derail this temporarily, what are the additional duties of a WO? Quote
Lindsey Posted June 3, 2014 Posted June 3, 2014 Probably not as much as I'd hoped... If I can derail this temporarily, what are the additional duties of a WO?Read my guide, lots of details about that in there. It's in the bookmarked WARRANT OFFICER FLIGHT TRAINING thread. 1 Quote
Diesel5187 Posted June 3, 2014 Posted June 3, 2014 Read my guide, lots of details about that in there. It's in the bookmarked WARRANT OFFICER FLIGHT TRAINING thread. Right, will do! 1 Quote
Hobbit64 Posted June 3, 2014 Posted June 3, 2014 Probably not as much as I'd hoped... If I can derail this temporarily, what are the additional duties of a WO?Fun! We get to make a list of the stuff that isn't in the shiny brochures! Trash Can Consolidation/Maintenance Officer ('Empty MY TRASH WOJG!!!!')Armament OfficerNVG OfficerFridge/Snack OfficerPublications OfficerAMSO (track)NBC(old-school)/CBRNE OfficerRefreshment resupply (Beer 'Getter') OfficerR.U.B.(Run-Up B!ch)/Sand-Bag for Maintenance Officer during functional test flights etcALSO Officer (survival gear dude/dudette)Script Reader during gunnery field problemsVerbal Punching Bag, just kidding...sort ofSafety Officer (ugh....) (track)Fodder for the IP's during their checkrides... They give you an oral eval and/or flight eval while they're getting evaluated.COMSEC officerHAZMAT/HAZCOM OfficerVoting OfficerConvoy OfficerSupply Officer (UGH!)FOD OfficerHearing Conservation OfficerPhysical Security OfficerRange OIC (set up and run weapons qual) They are really not all that bad. It does round you out and give you an appreciation of the fact that you are just one tiny,tiny cog in a big machine. Stay humble, you aren't that important-no matter how high in the food chain you get. Many sadly lose sight of that. I am sure others can chime in with more. 4 Quote
apacheguy Posted June 3, 2014 Posted June 3, 2014 You missed the obvious one: Go plan the brigade ball WOJG. 2 Quote
Velocity173 Posted June 3, 2014 Posted June 3, 2014 Forgot Fire Marshal and Utility Officer. Had both of those when I was a WOJG. I remember sitting at my desk at my first duty station working on my additional duties like a diligent WOJG does. My buddy was sitting across from me working on his as well. I looked out in the flight line at all the aircraft sitting there and thinking about how yet again we weren't on the flight schedule. I looked at him and said "is this what you thought you'd be doing when you signed up?" He said "nope." He did his 6 and got out. You'll get used to all the non flying BS. The longer you stay in, the easier it is to deal with. It also motivates you to track so you can say bye bye to all those additional duties. 2 Quote
akscott60 Posted June 3, 2014 Author Posted June 3, 2014 At my last company I had 4 or so duties. At my new company I an the NEO officer, and that is it. I fill in for the battalion ALSO when needed. And I am flying 8 of the next 11 days in a row. 3 Quote
Velocity173 Posted June 3, 2014 Posted June 3, 2014 At my last company I had 4 or so duties. At my new company I an the NEO officer, and that is it. I fill in for the battalion ALSO when needed. And I am flying 8 of the next 11 days in a row.Traitor! Quote
zVo Posted June 4, 2014 Posted June 4, 2014 Don't forget commo, EO, SHARP, UMO, IMO, and MRT Trainer! In my opinion, the absolute worst additional duty is supply -- and I've never been a supply officer... yet. ::knock on wood:: Quote
akscott60 Posted June 4, 2014 Author Posted June 4, 2014 You are exactly right. Supply is an entire MOS, yet as a WOJG you get stuck with it. 1 Quote
Flim Posted June 4, 2014 Posted June 4, 2014 I guess that is why people say if you want flight time, go to the airlines... If you want to look at helicopters, go to the Army! something like that... Quote
akscott60 Posted June 4, 2014 Author Posted June 4, 2014 I fly every day for the next week and a half. Sometimes you get lucky. 1 Quote
Velocity173 Posted June 4, 2014 Posted June 4, 2014 Wtf does a NVG and FOD officer do?NVG guy keeps track of all the goggles. Ensures that they're in a secure area, have all their pieces, all gripes are addressed, all scheduled maintenance is done, class given on their operation. FOD guy ensures number of FOD boxes are sufficient on the flight line, empties boxes at the appropriate time, addresses any issues with excess FOD producers, schedules FOD walks, administers classes on FOD. Quote
SBuzzkill Posted June 5, 2014 Posted June 5, 2014 Obviously some additional duties are harder than others. Quote
Flim Posted June 5, 2014 Posted June 5, 2014 So, what's the best duty for a new guy? I'm good at the fridge stuff, did that in corporate flying. Nvg would seem okay... Quote
SBuzzkill Posted June 5, 2014 Posted June 5, 2014 (edited) Fridge is pretty much mandatory for all WOJGs so you can count on that one. It's hard to say which duties are the best. Some of them don't involve a lot of work which gives you a lot of free time but on the flip side you're not learning or growing from them. Others take up almost all your time but you learn so much that you grow beyond your peers quickly. Things like NVGs are simple but have a large impact on your unit so how you treat your duty reflects on your worth to the organization. You want to be the guy that scrubs his equipment, inspects and replaces broken and missing stuff without having to be told about it, makes sure the services are done on time and knows to stagger them so you're never losing everything at once, organizes the closet and comes up with a good system for signing in/out, etc. You DON'T want to be the guy that waits until the e-mails start getting sent about your equipment being due, that lets everyone throw their stuff in the closet in piles, that lets caps go missing and lets goggles get stuffed back in the case without being zeroed, that has the manuals missing, that doesn't keep spare lanyards and battery trays, that takes a long time to fix issues... Any duty you get you should be trying to improve upon. The last guy may have set you up with a great system but maybe it's not in accordance with regulation and would fail an inspection. Maybe the last guy gave you a crappy system and it's your job to figure out how to make it work and start building the foundation. Or it could really be a great program and all you need to do is learn about it so that you can keep performing on the same level. The end state is showing your maturity and proving yourself as a good candidate for progression on the aviation side of things. It doesn't matter how well you fly if you don't handle yourself as a professional in your additional duties, because that's what you're going to be judged on. Edited June 5, 2014 by SBuzzkill 4 Quote
Diesel5187 Posted June 5, 2014 Posted June 5, 2014 Thanks for all this extra info, you guys(and girls ) have been the single biggest source of information so I may prepare for WOFT. Thank you! Quote
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