jjsemperfi Posted April 24, 2012 Report Share Posted April 24, 2012 I just can't wrap my mind around this. Is it true that an AS350 landed on the summit of Everest? Granted, there are high winds, 50 to 150 mph (from what I have researched) and cold temps, but is that enough? I would love to see the GPS, ground speed, indicated speed, and altimeter. I'm sure we'll never know though.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightsta1ker Posted April 24, 2012 Report Share Posted April 24, 2012 I've seen the vid. Looked like he was barely holding it in place. Had to be interesting to say the least, and I bet that thing was stripped of any and all unnessisary weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo2181 Posted April 24, 2012 Report Share Posted April 24, 2012 Interesting enough he said the hardest part was getting it to come down. With the strong winds and light weight it didn't want to land. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBuzzkill Posted April 25, 2012 Report Share Posted April 25, 2012 Man, if you rolled it up there you'd be screwed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Pig Posted April 25, 2012 Report Share Posted April 25, 2012 I just can't wrap my mind around this. Is it true that an AS350 landed on the summit of Everest? Granted, there are high winds, 50 to 150 mph (from what I have researched) and cold temps, but is that enough? I would love to see the GPS, ground speed, indicated speed, and altimeter. I'm sure we'll never know though.... Im pretty sure I thought Eurocopter made that all public? Showed his route he took to get up there, etc.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arotrhd Posted April 25, 2012 Report Share Posted April 25, 2012 Sorry Guys'nGals, but this was like 7 years ago. Where are the rocks & boulders you've been hiding under? It's now 23 days after April 1st. What's up? And it was a B3 btw. linky -WATCH FOR THE PATTERNS, WATCH FOR THE WIRES- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Hill Posted April 25, 2012 Report Share Posted April 25, 2012 The AS350B3 max ceiling is 23,000 feet, whats another 6,000 feet?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldy Posted April 25, 2012 Report Share Posted April 25, 2012 Sorry Guys'nGals, but this was like 7 years ago. Where are the rocks & boulders you've been hiding under? It's now 23 days after April 1st. What's up? And it was a B3 btw. linky -WATCH FOR THE PATTERNS, WATCH FOR THE WIRES- Steven- EXACTLY!! Yes they stripped it of all extra weight and with 60 knot winds he had a hard time holding it down into the snow long enough to be considered a "landing". Can't remember the details but I heard the pilot speak about his flight several Heli Expos ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomPPL Posted April 25, 2012 Report Share Posted April 25, 2012 Theres a direct link to the video here:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HckQcNNoJc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjsemperfi Posted April 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 And yes, I do understand that it was a B3. So we're saying that if you strip a helicopter then you can extend the service ceiling by 6,000 feet easy? I'm not buying it. If that's the case, an empty CH-53 could probably go up to 40,000 with all of that excess power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjsemperfi Posted April 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 And what is there to strip on an AStar, take out the seats.....and uh......the seats? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeroscout Posted April 26, 2012 Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 And what is there to strip on an AStar, take out the seats.....and uh......the seats?Does air conditioning come standard ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjsemperfi Posted April 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 Haha, no way! That 3 pounds could add another 2,000 feet to the service ceiling!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lelebebbel Posted April 26, 2012 Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 (edited) The service ceiling is not necessarily the highest altitude the helicopter can achieve."Service ceiling" can be determined by many factors, including acceptable performance, safety factors, maybe also autorotative capabilies etc. In other words: When they determine the service ceiling, they don't just pull the collective up until it stops climbing, and then write down that altitude. Thus, it is not surprising at all that that B3 at minimum weight and in good weather conditions was able to climb much higher than the official ceiling. It just wouldn't be safe - or legal- to do this in every day operation. Also, the AS350 Air Conditioning System weight is probably closer to 100 pounds... Edited April 26, 2012 by lelebebbel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjsemperfi Posted April 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 I was just kidding, even the AC system in a car isn't 3 pounds. So I wonder if the AS355 could land on the moon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam32 Posted April 29, 2012 Report Share Posted April 29, 2012 (edited) I was just kidding, even the AC system in a car isn't 3 pounds. So I wonder if the AS355 could land on the moon? The AS355 is a pig. Service ceiling doesn't mean that's the highest a helicopter can fly. What's a Lama's ceiling, Around 17,000ft right? And they took one to 40,000+ and still holds the record. Should you take one up that high, of course not! Edited April 29, 2012 by adam32 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjsemperfi Posted May 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 Have you ever flown an AS355? Is that extra engine just there for safety then if it doesn't do anything performance wise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjsemperfi Posted May 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 So what airspace was that pilot in on the top of everest? Was he in A or G? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helipilot PTK Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 Class A airspace extends from 18,000MSL to 60,000MSL. The highest class G can go is 14,500MSL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightsta1ker Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 Probably neither because it was not over the Continental United States so there really was no "Airspace". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retreating Brain Stall Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 Class A airspace extends from 18,000MSL to 60,000MSL. The highest class G can go is 14,500MSL Class G.......up to 14,500 MSL Excluding 1500 ft AGL. At everest no idea on the countries airspace structure- maybe an ICAO participating country?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C of G Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 Helipilot PTK, on 30 April 2012 - 22:13, said: Class A airspace extends from 18,000MSL to 60,000MSL. The highest class G can go is 14,500MSL Class G.......up to 14,500 MSL Excluding 1500 ft AGL. At everest no idea on the countries airspace structure- maybe an ICAO participating country?. It can go higher than 14,500. If there is a peak above 13,000 then the first 1500' above that is still G. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helipilot PTK Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 Thank you for correcting me Sir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjsemperfi Posted May 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 Well if you're above 14,500 MSL but within 1500 AGL then you're in G. There's no airspace outside of the Continental US? How the heck do they fly!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helipilot PTK Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 Well if you're above 14,500 MSL but within 1500 AGL then you're in G. There's no airspace outside of the Continental US? How the heck do they fly!!! There is airspace it is just in different configurations, I believe the UK has Class A, C, D, and E, but they are not the same as FAA airspace. Someone more experienced with JAA airspace can chime in and give more in-depth information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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