13fTheRedEyes Posted January 24, 2019 Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 Made this new topic for everyone who is applying for the March board. I didnt get selected on the January board but Ill submit some updates and see how it goes. My stats are as follows AGE: 26 ASVAB GT: 113 SIFT: 48 APFT: 283 EDUCATION: 28 Credits throughs AS in GS FLIGHT: None LORS: O-2 with Assumption of Command Orders , O-5, CW5 OTHER INFO: Active Duty, E-6, 13F, 6 years TIS PHYSICAL: Stamped and Approved WAIVERS: 3 Moral Waivers Good luck everyone 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toucan Posted January 24, 2019 Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 Were you FQ-NS or were your waivers not processed in time? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13fTheRedEyes Posted January 24, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 Were you FQ-NS or were your waivers not processed in time?I was FQ-NS all my waivers were approved. Did you apply for the last board? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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toucan Posted January 24, 2019 Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 I was FQ-NS all my waivers were approved. Did you apply for the last board?No I just dropped my packet about 2 weeks ago. Just not sure if my waivers will be processed in time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13fTheRedEyes Posted January 24, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 No I just dropped my packet about 2 weeks ago. Just not sure if my waivers will be processed in time.Im just they wil mine took about 4-6 for 3 waivers on the last board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toucan Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 Im just they wil mine took about 4-6 for 3 waivers on the last board.How far ahead of the deadline did you submit your packet? I have 2 moral waivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13fTheRedEyes Posted January 25, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 How far ahead of the deadline did you submit your packet? I have 2 moral waivers.A week prior Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toucan Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 A week prior Guess I'll hope I make it to this board. My stats are: AGE: 27ASVAB GT: 128 SIFT: 63 APFT: 290 EDUCATION: 100+ credits towards bachelor FLIGHT: None LORS: 0-4/0-5/W-4 OTHER INFO: Active Duty, E-5, 5 years TIS PHYSICAL: Stamped and Approved WAIVERS: 2 Moral Waivers Good luck everyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevinnnnnnnn Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 I was selected on the January board. Just wanted to post my stats. Comparing stats to other members that were NS that were similar or better makes me believe the quality of LORs and the resume are the most important part. I emphasized very hard in my resume about how commited I was to staying in, I also reenlisted to drive my point home. I feel like it also helps to submit an extra LOR and every aviator I spoke with was very receptive to helping. Write up a LOR, take your packet and start bugging people. Goodluck to all this board and please feel free to PM me. AGE: 29 ASVAB GT: 121 SIFT: 48 APFT: 262 EDUCATION: 81 credits, 2 associates FLIGHT: None LORS: O-3 , O-5, CW4 from 160th, O6 aviator OTHER INFO: Active Duty, E-5, 68W, 3 years TIS PHYSICAL: Stamped and Approved WAIVERS: 1 Moral Waivers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EDGE0311 Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 Good afternoon, Seeking some info on street to seat program. My son, 17 yoa just started into the process. He will graduate High School in May with a 3.7 GPA. We currently have 6 letters of recommendation, 2 from Asst Police Chiefs, his JROTC Instructors, a retired Navy Senior Chief (E-8), and a U.S. Army 1st Lt. None of his LOR's are from anyone in the aviation field. The recruiter is shooting for the March board. He has a GT that qualifies but has yet to take his physicals, PT test, or the SIFT. my questions are: What percentage of applicants to the WOFT program are street to seat? Are the SIFT study guides worth buying and using? What is considered to be a competitive SIFT score? How tough are the boards on the younger applicants (He is currently the unit Senior Chief for his NJROTC unit, and speaks very well under pressure) Any information or advice would be greatly appreciated! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlopez13 Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 I heard that civilians can turn in their package pretty late. Any experience with this or anyone hearing of this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nsavage Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 Thank you to everyone who was contributed to these forums by sharing your experiences with this process. Your help has made this process a lot less painful then it would have been without it. From what I've learned on these forums, a well written resume and strong LORs will give you your best shot at getting selected. AGE: 29 ASVAB GT: 137 SIFT: 78 APFT: 293 EDUCATION: AA Degree, 75 credits towards BS w/ 3.5 GPA FLIGHT: 2700 hrs as enlisted aircrew LORS: O-4, O-4, O-5 (All USAF Pilots) OTHER INFO: AD USAF, E-5, 6 years TIS PHYSICAL: Stamped and Approved WAIVERS: No waivers Good luck everyone. Here's to everyone making it this board! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kur Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 My whole application has been a shitshow so far (not on my part). Finally my package is complete and it's somewhere in QC but haven't heard anything back. What all happened and/or how long did it take for anyone to get in touch with you to actually get this finished? Talked to my recruiter last week and asked him to email me the last steps or whether I'd have to talk to the battalion commander so they will recommend me. No response. I'm kind of tired chasing after recruiters and contemplating whether I'm going to call the IG on Monday... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlopez13 Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 My whole application has been a shitshow so far (not on my part). Finally my package is complete and it's somewhere in QC but haven't heard anything back. What all happened and/or how long did it take for anyone to get in touch with you to actually get this finished? Talked to my recruiter last week and asked him to email me the last steps or whether I'd have to talk to the battalion commander so they will recommend me. No response. I'm kind of tired chasing after recruiters and contemplating whether I'm going to call the IG on Monday...It is my understanding you don't need a battalion recommendation since you don't need a battalion board. They did away with that step last Sept. If it's up in QC like you said, the recruiter has sent it to battalion to and someone is checking for mistakes before sending it to USAREC or it's already been forwarded to the SFC at Fort Rucker in charge of making sure the packages are complete for the convening board. Find out if he sent it to the SFC because if there's no mistakes, he will accept the package for the March board. Question, when did your recruiter say it went up for QC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kur Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 Jlopez13, As far as I know, it's been wherever since Jan 9. But he said something about me still needing the waiver worksheet (I have no waivers) and that there is no selection board. Instead, an area rep will select me. So I'm hesitant to trust what he is doing/saying because that's not how it works. I'm aware they did away with the board but he said the battalion commander may still want to talk to me. Like an interview with just her or something. Possibly just on the phone. Lots or uncertainty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlopez13 Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 There's no area rep. There's only the USAREC board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch4600 Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 Kur, if your recruiter is not responding, you might try your station commander. He should be able to call your recruiting battalion and clear things up. I got in a little trouble for calling the battalion myself even though it worked for getting answers. I still had to do the battalion board when I applied so my experience is different. However, the way it worked for me was after the battalion board there was a designated person who worked at the battalion who QC'd and submitted the packages to USAREC. That's probably the person who is asking for the waiver, and that your recruiter needs to talk to. Your recruiters probably know who this person is as he would be submitting OCS packages after the OCS boards for them all the time as well. As far as the battalion commander wanting to see you, just wear a suit and he will go over your package and ask you some questions. Just a little interview, no big deal. For me it was a prerequisite to the battalion board. He probably thinks he should still do that to make sure you're good to go. In addition, you are correct about the area rep thing. I never heard of that. Maybe they are just trying to say the battalion will directly submit your package to the USAREC board thus skipping the now not required battalion board. Which is in fact the case 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kur Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 Jlopez I'm emailing you. Mitch, my recruiter is the station commander. Yeah... fml. When he told me about the waiver form I immediately downloaded it (yea I found it myself. he didn't send it to me). Didn't know what all I needed to fill out so I contacted him and he said he hadn't heard anything back yet. But he had just told me someone told him they wanted that form. You see how that gets frustrating quickly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XIIGage Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 Good afternoon, Seeking some info on street to seat program. My son, 17 yoa just started into the process. He will graduate High School in May with a 3.7 GPA. We currently have 6 letters of recommendation, 2 from Asst Police Chiefs, his JROTC Instructors, a retired Navy Senior Chief (E-8), and a U.S. Army 1st Lt. None of his LOR's are from anyone in the aviation field. The recruiter is shooting for the March board. He has a GT that qualifies but has yet to take his physicals, PT test, or the SIFT. my questions are: What percentage of applicants to the WOFT program are street to seat? Are the SIFT study guides worth buying and using? What is considered to be a competitive SIFT score? How tough are the boards on the younger applicants (He is currently the unit Senior Chief for his NJROTC unit, and speaks very well under pressure) Any information or advice would be greatly appreciated! I'll try to answer a few questions, but lots of research and due diligence on your (your son's part) will be needed. These forums are a great resource, so please read everything you can. First he will need to visit an Army recruiter and find one that will help him. Do not let them convince him to enlist first. Street to seat is what you want. As far as letters of recommendation go, choose the best 3 and submit those. Most board reviews only have a few minutes to go over your entire packet, and having 6 LoRs will just make it more likely the worst one will get read and the good ones will not even be looked at. Percentage wise, civilian applicants only board against other civilians, so you will not be competing against people that are currently serving. A competitive SIFT score is generally considered above a 50. But keep in mind that the ASVAB and SIFT matter less than the APFT, LoRs, and the essay. For civilian applicants, younger people usually have it harder. It does happen and they do get selected, but you are generally competing against people in their mid 20's who have had jobs and been in proven leadership positions for a few years. Right outside high school is a little harder, but having JROTC could help there. He likely won't have to interview since they just did away with that at the battalion level, so make sure the entire packet is strong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EDGE0311 Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 I'll try to answer a few questions, but lots of research and due diligence on your (your son's part) will be needed. These forums are a great resource, so please read everything you can. First he will need to visit an Army recruiter and find one that will help him. Do not let them convince him to enlist first. Street to seat is what you want. As far as letters of recommendation go, choose the best 3 and submit those. Most board reviews only have a few minutes to go over your entire packet, and having 6 LoRs will just make it more likely the worst one will get read and the good ones will not even be looked at. Percentage wise, civilian applicants only board against other civilians, so you will not be competing against people that are currently serving. A competitive SIFT score is generally considered above a 50. But keep in mind that the ASVAB and SIFT matter less than the APFT, LoRs, and the essay. For civilian applicants, younger people usually have it harder. It does happen and they do get selected, but you are generally competing against people in their mid 20's who have had jobs and been in proven leadership positions for a few years. Right outside high school is a little harder, but having JROTC could help there. He likely won't have to interview since they just did away with that at the battalion level, so make sure the entire packet is strong.Thanks for the reply XIIGage. We are in very beginning of this journey and we have given all responsibility going forward to our son. I will have him start posting any further questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toucan Posted January 31, 2019 Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 My recruiter has been telling me that my packet has been sitting at WOMOS proponent for validation and QC. I submitted my packet 3 weeks ago. Should I be worried? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captainstank056 Posted January 31, 2019 Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 My recruiter has been telling me that my packet has been sitting at WOMOS proponent for validation and QC. I submitted my packet 3 weeks ago. Should I be worried?Not at all. Just keep reaching out each week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seminole Posted February 1, 2019 Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 Take three at getting board ready. Civilian applicant -Age: 25 -GT: 131 -SIFT: 64 -APFT: 293 -Education: B.S. dual track major (214 credits 3.0 GPA) -Flight: none -LORs: O-4 CH53 pilot, CW4 60M pilot, Command Sgt Major USASOC, current civilian boss -Physical: Stamped -Waivers: None Packet QCd and good to go. Extremely hopeful. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acatino199 Posted February 2, 2019 Report Share Posted February 2, 2019 I have a question about the APFT for the street to seat. My recruiter told me that I am not required to do the full PT test: 2 min pu, 2 min su, 2 mile run. He said I would have to do some deadlifts, standing jump, ball toss, and a run. When I was USAREC website, it said I needed DA form 705, which is the full PT test. My question is, will I need to do the regular PT test? Thanks in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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