electron_si Posted February 19, 2013 Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 So I just DVR'd the first episode of Combat Rescue from Nat Geo. At first I thought it was Army Medevac crews from a few pics I had seen from DirecTV ads, but its actually AF PJ's. They have some pretty cool footage of stuff and real missions, the pilots are wearing go pro's which is pretty sweet. Has anyone else seen it yet? Any thoughts. I thought it was cool how they put FM freq's on the windshield in dry erase, I was thinking about flipping through my commo card trying to find a freq and laughed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osterhjm Posted February 19, 2013 Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 It was really good. First episode was Air Force but I don't know if the entire series is based on this unit. Focused mostly on the pj's and medical staff but the aviators were a major part obviously. Very ensightful if you're interested in flying medivac, but the series is not for the faint of heart, as is the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osterhjm Posted February 19, 2013 Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 I also loved the hipster mustaches on the nose of helos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grind Posted February 19, 2013 Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 It's all on AF Pararescue. It's all about PJ/Pedro. Not Dustoff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electron_si Posted February 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 i was thinking the moustache comes from Napoleon Dynamite "Pedro" but that was just a guess. Those AF hawks have a ton of cool sh*t on them, mini-gun 50 cal with flex sewer line for brass deflection was a nice touch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velocity173 Posted February 19, 2013 Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 Back in the old days the 60s out of Moody would pick us up after our SERE exercise. Now you new WOCs just have to ruck it, truck it, or do what ever it takes to get out, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akscott60 Posted February 20, 2013 Report Share Posted February 20, 2013 To bad their 60s are clapped out. And with all that sh*t on them, and a massive crew, their useful load aint great.... But they do fly the piss out of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVIATORWANNABE Posted February 20, 2013 Report Share Posted February 20, 2013 Just watched it. Pretty impressed, it was a good show the SF Soldier at the end was INTENSE. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electron_si Posted February 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2013 Yeah there really isn't any sensoring to speak of, they pretty much just show you that medics leg thats blown off when the thermal blanket blows off. Those hawks are def close to MGWT but I'd rather fly with mini guns than fly a stripped out Army med carousel bird that only has m4's to defend itself from small arms engagements Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d10 Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 If my goal is to get the patient out and into a hospital I'll take a stripped out Black Hawk over anything with guns. Especially when it comes with Army medics over Air Force PJs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindsey Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 If my goal is to get the patient out and into a hospital I'll take a stripped out Black Hawk over anything with guns. Especially when it comes with Army medics over Air Force PJs. Just because? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d10 Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 No, because guns are almost always unneccesary, but I guess if you have some good ones you feel this need to blaze into every possibly hot LZ like Johnny Badass shooting up the place, meanwhile your patient is bleeding out waiting for you to get on the ground and provide actual medical care. Nobody does Medevac better than the Army. They will outshine Pedro every time in the stats that matter (time to pick up, time to higher level of care, lives saved). 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjl2001 Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 To bad their 60s are clapped out. And with all that sh*t on them, and a massive crew, their useful load aint great.... But they do fly the piss out of them. I was hoping the AF was going to go with the HH-47's on their last CSAR-X bid. Instead, it's been 6 years since and they're no closer to replacement. A report I saw a year or two ago about the fleet of HH-60Gs did not paint a good picture looking forward. But I realize the entire military is gonna have to start doing more with less. As long as they're able to do their thing... "So Others May Live." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBuzzkill Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 (edited) Ehhhh, edit. Edited February 21, 2013 by SBuzzkill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grind Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 Episode 1 on YT. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=W2SuQRhxiME Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velocity173 Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 No, because guns are almost always unneccesary, but I guess if you have some good ones you feel this need to blaze into every possibly hot LZ like Johnny Badass shooting up the place, meanwhile your patient is bleeding out waiting for you to get on the ground and provide actual medical care. Nobody does Medevac better than the Army. They will outshine Pedro every time in the stats that matter (time to pick up, time to higher level of care, lives saved). I agree. The "Jolly" and "Pedro" guys are quite valuable assets during the initial stages of an invasion. That's the best chance of isolated personel ops. Once we're established and set up shop, we have friendlies on the ground and in the air everywhere. So that leaves the CSAR guys with no missions, and in recent years taking MEDEVAC missions from the Army. No way a CSAR crew gets airborne as fast as an Army Med crew. I remember one day doing "Med Chase" I was feeling good that I got my aircraft and crew ready in 5 mins. Unfortunately the med left us in the dust and were a mile in front of us while I called tower for clearance! I took part in the biggest op in RC East During OEF X and observed CSAR taking a MEDEVAC mission from the Army. I won't go into details, but I really wasn't pleased in their performance. I've heard PJ guys bragging about having firepower and the MEDEVAC not. As D10 said it really isn't important for MEDEVAC. You can bet there aren't many CSAR guys returing fire during a MEDEVAC. First, unless they're extremely close you're not gonna see the enemy. Second, you start shooting 50 cal and mini guns off with friendlies everywhere, you got a good chance of fratracide. Finally, Med Chase has a birds eye view of the action and can provide support with the 240s...not to mention 58s or 64s are probably providing cover anyway. Army Aviation is incredibly flexible when it comes to CSAR. The Army doesn't have dedicated CSAR units because we simply don't need it. For those of you who don't know we train to CSAR just like anything else and are ready to execute at a moments notice. In theater you have Army helos running around the country like wild men. If you think I'm gonna see a fighter guy under canopy drifting to the ground and say "leave it for Air Force CSAR" you're nuts. All it takes is a click of the mike to find out what kind of AH / OH assets in the area and we go off and do a adhoc CSAR. Several cases of Apache self extraction in theater as well. You're PIC, sometimes doctrine goes out the window and you simply do what is necessary to make a favorable outcome. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindsey Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 Episode 1 on YT. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=W2SuQRhxiME "That video is private." Here's another link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_Ush52StAE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velocity173 Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 Great vid! Thanks for posting Lindsey. The scrambles brought back memories of doing Med Chase and QRF; short notice, little planning and usually rewarding. CSAR and MEDEVAC don't get many hours but it's an awesome thing they do. Quality over quanity I guess. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grind Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 "That video is private." Here's another link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_Ush52StAE I wouldn't doubt Nat Geo (Fox) is all over youtube trying to take them down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindsey Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 I wouldn't doubt Nat Geo (Fox) is all over youtube trying to take them down. Suuuuuure. That's what they all say after posting a bad link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akscott60 Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 That was good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navywings22 Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 No, because guns are almost always unneccesary, but I guess if you have some good ones you feel this need to blaze into every possibly hot LZ like Johnny Badass shooting up the place, meanwhile your patient is bleeding out waiting for you to get on the ground and provide actual medical care. Nobody does Medevac better than the Army. They will outshine Pedro every time in the stats that matter (time to pick up, time to higher level of care, lives saved). Though I completely get what you are saying and I agree about a stripped out helo vs. an armed one I have to say that there are units that fly MEDEVAC along side the Army that have a proven record of 100% mission completion, no lost patients, and extremely fast response time that are not Army units. Without degrading the fact that the Army does the job excellently, I would at least recognize that the Dustoff legacy is shared. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindsey Posted February 26, 2013 Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 Just a reminder to all that Part Two of this series premieres tonight at 10pm Eastern/Pacific on NATGEO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electron_si Posted February 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 I hope I set my DVR to record the series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.am.Specialized Posted February 26, 2013 Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 Hopefully someone is gracious enough to put it up on YouTube like the others! Let me know if any of you find it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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