Jan 2014 WOFT Board

[skyreaper]

Prob get a desk in the janitors closet. idk. Just stick both fists in it.

[KMKarlinski]

Hey I've been looking through other forms and that prompted a question. I see people talking about "doing the most correct pushups in the lives" at WOCS. Is there one form they prefer or do they accept the different types? I do wide armed because it uses my stronger muscles. Im working on doing more of the "standard" but frankly I don't even know if I'm doing them correctly. Upper body strength isn't my strongest point.

 

I realize I'm putting the cart before the horse here since I haven't even gone to basic yet, I just like to be prepared. =)

[I3uller]

The only thing you need to worry about is to break the plane of your upper arms and back when you go down. Don't lift your hands or feet during the test and break the plane and you'll be fine.

[KMKarlinski]

Ok good. Thanks. =) I shift my hands to "rest" (the horrible downward dog yoga pose) but that's it. I don't lift them or anything. Glad to know they don't care what form you use. Took me six months to get in shape to do those!

[I3uller]

Ya you can alternate between wide and narrow hands or whatever you want just slide them. Your feet have to be together though. You can look up the actual reg narrative on how to do proper push-ups and you'll learn all about it in bct.

[KMKarlinski]

Thanks for the help!

[egscharf]

The Gospel according to FM 7-22:

 

 

“THE PUSH-UP EVENT MEASURES THE ENDURANCE OF THE CHEST,

SHOULDER, AND TRICEPS MUSCLES. ON THE COMMAND, ‘GET SET’, ASSUME THE

FRONT-LEANING REST POSITION BY PLACING YOUR HANDS WHERE THEY ARE

COMFORTABLE FOR YOU. YOUR FEET MAY BE TOGETHER OR UP TO 12 INCHES

APART (MEASURED BETWEEN THE FEET). WHEN VIEWED FROM THE SIDE, YOUR

BODY SHOULD FORM A GENERALLY STRAIGHT LINE FROM YOUR SHOULDERS TO

YOUR ANKLES. ON THE COMMAND ‘GO’, BEGIN THE PUSH-UP BY BENDING YOUR

ELBOWS AND LOWERING YOUR ENTIRE BODY AS A SINGLE UNIT UNTIL YOUR

UPPER ARMS ARE AT LEAST PARALLEL TO THE GROUND. THEN, RETURN TO THE

STARTING POSITION BY RAISING YOUR ENTIRE BODY UNTIL YOUR ARMS ARE

FULLY EXTENDED. YOUR BODY MUST REMAIN RIGID IN A GENERALLY STRAIGHT

LINE AND MOVE AS A UNIT WHILE PERFORMING EACH REPETITION. AT THE END OF

EACH REPETITION, THE SCORER WILL STATE THE NUMBER OF REPETITIONS YOU

HAVE COMPLETED CORRECTLY. IF YOU FAIL TO KEEP YOUR BODY GENERALLY

STRAIGHT, TO LOWER YOUR WHOLE BODY UNTIL YOUR UPPER ARMS ARE AT

LEAST PARALLEL TO THE GROUND, OR TO EXTEND YOUR ARMS COMPLETELY,

THAT REPETITION WILL NOT COUNT, AND THE SCORER WILL REPEAT THE NUMBER

OF THE LAST CORRECTLY PERFORMED REPETITION.”

“IF YOU FAIL TO PERFORM THE FIRST 10 PUSH-UPS CORRECTLY, THE

SCORER WILL TELL YOU TO GO TO YOUR KNEES AND WILL EXPLAIN YOUR

DEFICIENCIES. YOU WILL THEN BE SENT TO THE END OF THE LINE TO BE

RETESTED. AFTER THE FIRST 10 PUSH-UPS HAVE BEEN PERFORMED AND

COUNTED, NO RESTARTS ARE ALLOWED. THE TEST WILL CONTINUE, AND ANY

INCORRECTLY PERFORMED PUSH-UPS WILL NOT BE COUNTED. AN ALTERED,

FRONT-LEANING REST POSITION IS THE ONLY AUTHORIZED REST POSITION. THAT

IS, YOU MAY SAG IN THE MIDDLE OR FLEX YOUR BACK. WHEN FLEXING YOUR

BACK, YOU MAY BEND YOUR KNEES, BUT NOT TO SUCH AN EXTENT THAT YOU ARE

SUPPORTING MOST OF YOUR BODY WEIGHT WITH YOUR LEGS. IF THIS OCCURS,

YOUR PERFORMANCE WILL BE TERMINATED. YOU MUST RETURN TO, AND PAUSE

IN, THE CORRECT STARTING POSITION BEFORE CONTINUING. IF YOU REST ON THE

GROUND OR RAISE EITHER HAND OR FOOT FROM THE GROUND, YOUR

PERFORMANCE WILL BE TERMINATED. YOU MAY REPOSITION YOUR HANDS

AND/OR FEET DURING THE EVENT AS LONG AS THEY REMAIN IN CONTACT WITH

THE GROUND AT ALL TIMES. CORRECT PERFORMANCE IS IMPORTANT. YOU WILL

HAVE TWO MINUTES IN WHICH TO DO AS MANY PUSH-UPS AS YOU CAN. WATCH

THIS DEMONSTRATION.”

[Creep0321]

With guys getting selected in Jan and school dates in Oct, is that typical? Im trying to get a general idea of timelines is all. Thanks in advance for any help.

[TriViper]

I was talking to a POC at Fort Rucker. I'm wondering if there is truth to this, but he said if the Army really wanted to (pretty rare though), they could transition someone out of 153A and into another career field of need. If you couldn't be a pilot, would you still join the Army? I don't think I would to be honest.

[skyreaper]

I was talking to a POC at Fort Rucker. I'm wondering if there is truth to this, but he said if the Army really wanted to (pretty rare though), they could transition someone out of 153A and into another career field of need. If you couldn't be a pilot, would you still join the Army? I don't think I would to be honest.

Ya thats true, goes for any branch. I used to fly w a dude who vacated the AF bc they were going to move him to uavs. Last I heard, the Marines cycle pilots to several positions including recruiting. I think its fair to say though, that with WOFT being what it is now and historically, a Aviation Warrant flying is as guranteed as it gets. I havent heard of the Army moving a WO pilot to a different MOS, but they could.

[TriViper]

Is there currently a student loan repayment program with 153A? Couldn't find any credible info on it.

[UH60L-IP]

No, your students loans will not be repaid for you by going 153A.

[skyreaper]

In addition to being in the best physical shape possible, what should a recent WOFT select be doing now to prepare for BCT and WOCS? Is it recommended to start studying the WOC SOPs? My situation is I go to BCT in July, grad. late September and begin WOCS in October. My concern is that there will be a limited amount of time between BCT end and WOCS start dates, so I want to know what, if anything, we should/could do now to prep.

 

What have you who have recently gone through this done?

[Justine]

In addition to being in the best physical shape possible, what should a recent WOFT select be doing now to prepare for BCT and WOCS? Is it recommended to start studying the WOC SOPs? My situation is I go to BCT in July, grad. late September and begin WOCS in October. My concern is that there will be a limited amount of time between BCT end and WOCS start dates, so I want to know what, if anything, we should/could do now to prep.

 

What have you who have recently gone through this done?

relax, you will have 2 plus years of TRADOC to prepare....

[skyreaper]

So how guaranteed is an individuals assigned BCT ship date? Putting in my two weeks notice at my current job... Need some time to get a few things in order.

[Yamer]

It's in stone unless you do something to postpone it

[Lastshot]

How many of you, if you had the choice, would choose Guard WOFT over Active Duty WOFT?

[Yamer]

Already made that choice

[GoodKnight]

Yep, already decided... No question. Go big or go home!

[skyreaper]

AD ftw! Although... one question that could be a discriminator is; Is there a flight time difference between AD and Guard? Never thought to ask till just now...

[firepilot42]

I chose AD over Guard for the lifestyle difference. The idea of moving every few years was the selling point for me.

 

Someone I used to work with joined the NG a few years ago and went OFT (Commissioned not Warrant). Just something to keep in mind he had to take off a lot more than the one weekend a month to stay current, but luckily he had a job that didn't have a problem with that. Legally they can't have a problem with it but....

[KMKarlinski]

How many of you, if you had the choice, would choose Guard WOFT over Active Duty WOFT?

 

I chose active. I like the guard and their dual purpose serving at home and abroad, but I want to do this full time career.

[2ndGen]

I chose active duty because I wanted flying to be my career. I wasn't going to be able to get a job flying with the 200ish hours i'd get from flight school. I also wanted a say in what I flew.

[TriViper]

Have you guys known since a kid that you wanted to fly? You hear that a lot among pilots, however, I'm amazed at how many of you come from diverse backgrounds.

[Yamer]

I made my career choice for sure when I was 21