icfadc Posted November 8, 2017 Author Posted November 8, 2017 Looks like I'll most likely be pushed to the January board awaiting a waiver to be approved still not "board ready", unless some miracle happens and its approved before Monday. Good luck to everyone... Quote
niner5 Posted November 8, 2017 Posted November 8, 2017 Little confused here. My recruiter told me that there are boards every month for civilian applicants to WOFT. Is this true? Or are the board dates only in November, January, and March. Thanks Quote
WillyB Posted November 8, 2017 Posted November 8, 2017 Little confused here. My recruiter told me that there are boards every month for civilian applicants to WOFT. Is this true? Or are the board dates only in November, January, and March. Thanks From what I understand the Civilian boards go monthly depending on the region. These boards are for the recruiting people to say that you would be a good candidate. Once they give the go ahead they send your packet to USAREC for their board. Which is boarded according to their calendar.  Basically the recruiter boards are for them to weed out the people who would't be a good fit into the military. 1 Quote
ec93 Posted November 11, 2017 Posted November 11, 2017 Age: 24Degree: 3.4 GPA BA in Political Science w/ paralegal studies minorGT : 119SIFT: 64APFT: 300Flight Physical: Stamped no waiversMil Experience : noneFlight Experience: 7 hrs rotary wingLORs: Retired Army Capt, HS coach/teacher, former boss at big 5 pharma, college prof Packet is USAREC board ready. Have been lurking/reading for a few months now while building my packet, forums have been awesome. LOR's and low flight time are worrisome. Coming from the civilian side. Good luck to everyone and hoping for the best! Quote
Creep0321 Posted November 11, 2017 Posted November 11, 2017 Age: 24Degree: 3.4 GPA BA in Political Science w/ paralegal studies minorGT : 119SIFT: 64APFT: 300Flight Physical: Stamped no waiversMil Experience : noneFlight Experience: 7 hrs rotary wingLORs: Retired Army Capt, HS coach/teacher, former boss at big 5 pharma, college prof Packet is USAREC board ready. Have been lurking/reading for a few months now while building my packet, forums have been awesome. LOR's and low flight time are worrisome. Coming from the civilian side. Good luck to everyone and hoping for the best!Dont be worried. 2 Quote
JD225 Posted November 11, 2017 Posted November 11, 2017 Age: 24Degree: 3.4 GPA BA in Political Science w/ paralegal studies minorGT : 119SIFT: 64APFT: 300Flight Physical: Stamped no waiversMil Experience : noneFlight Experience: 7 hrs rotary wingLORs: Retired Army Capt, HS coach/teacher, former boss at big 5 pharma, college prof Packet is USAREC board ready. Have been lurking/reading for a few months now while building my packet, forums have been awesome. LOR's and low flight time are worrisome. Coming from the civilian side. Good luck to everyone and hoping for the best!Dont you have to have a LOR from a Sr. Warrant? I heard something along the lines of they are waiving that right now do to the shortage but I havent actually seen it anywhere. Quote
ByteFlighter Posted November 11, 2017 Posted November 11, 2017 Dont you have to have a LOR from a Sr. Warrant? I heard something along the lines of they are waiving that right now do to the shortage but I havent actually seen it anywhere. Only if you are active duty making the jump. For WOFT applicants, it isn't required but I **HIGHLY** recommend it. Just a hint for people looking to find a Senior Flight Warrant close to your home, check listing for your state's national guard units. It is quite easier to find them if you look to NG vs. Finding an Army base with a dedicated airfield. Quote
ec93 Posted November 11, 2017 Posted November 11, 2017 Dont you have to have a LOR from a Sr. Warrant? I heard something along the lines of they are waiving that right now do to the shortage but I havent actually seen it anywhere.Echo what Byte said above. I worked on getting a few really strong LORs from people who know me well. By the time I sat down with a Sr. Warrant my packet was already sent to qc at battalion level. Agreed to wait and see how first look goes since I already have four letters. If not picked up then I could come in for a more formal interview for potential letter. In hindsight I should've started working on finding a Sr. Warrant earlier in the process, live and learn. Quote
rwood Posted November 11, 2017 Posted November 11, 2017 Kind of have me worried now comparing that I don’t have a degree just college credits, and no flight time Quote
ec93 Posted November 11, 2017 Posted November 11, 2017 Kind of have me worried now comparing that I don’t have a degree just college credits, and no flight timeI wouldn't worry too much you have a great apft, LORs, and prior service. Plus hear the pilot shortage is real. Quote
rwood Posted November 11, 2017 Posted November 11, 2017 I really hope that makes up for a good packet. This has been a long last couple of months anticipating this week coming up. It’s finally almost here, hoping for the best for everyone. Quote
ByteFlighter Posted November 11, 2017 Posted November 11, 2017 Kind of have me worried now comparing that I don’t have a degree just college credits, and no flight time The worrying will subside when you get picked up. The WOFT program is generally tailored towards applicants that haven't finished college, even though applicants with degrees will certainly still get picked up...I am not a good example as I was just about finished my degree + had a multitude of pilots licenses when I got picked up, but I also know that about 60%-90% of the WOFT applicants selected have zero flight time and around 60%-75% or higher have no bachelors...most do have some form of college credits though..... The college thing isn't to important, but I will say having the credits is for sure beneficial. You'll be grinding towards your bachelors and masters once you make Warrant anyways... Quote
Thedude Posted November 12, 2017 Posted November 12, 2017 Not having flight hours isn’t a problem. The Army will teach you to fly their way regardless of how experienced you are. You would be starting with a blank slate unlike others who might have old habits to break or difficulty adapting to the way the Army teaches, which is far different from the civilian world. Quote
WillyB Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 Board starts today! My wife is losing her mind with my count down. Now to be checking the MILPER every day until the results post. Quote
ec93 Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 Has been a long time coming, best of luck to everyone. If anyone hears anything on the civilian results let us know. Seems like last few boards the civilian results came out Tuesday and onward, but one can always hope. Quote
JD225 Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 Lucky enough to be on vacation to take my mind off of it and distract me while I wait. Quote
rwood Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 This is going to be the longest week of my life! Quote
ByteFlighter Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 Not having flight hours isn’t a problem. The Army will teach you to fly their way regardless of how experienced you are. You would be starting with a blank slate unlike others who might have old habits to break or difficulty adapting to the way the Army teaches, which is far different from the civilian world.  I get what you are saying, really I do. But the last half is complete hogwash. For the candidates that don't have any flight time, don't fret to much. For the Candidates that do have flight time, it will help you bottom line. Basic fundamentals of flight are universal. The nav charts don't change. Flight computers don't change. The physics of flight don't change just because you are flying in the Army. If you have flight time, you will have a *tiny* leg up once you get into flight school. This is more evident if you are instrument rated. Please don't try to rationalize the idea that applicants with flight time is a negative thing just because you don't/didn't have any flight time yourself. Although you don't need flight time, it will help you on the selection board. That is just reality. Quote
Thedude Posted November 14, 2017 Posted November 14, 2017 I get what you are saying, really I do. But the last half is complete hogwash. For the candidates that don't have any flight time, don't fret to much. For the Candidates that do have flight time, it will help you bottom line. Basic fundamentals of flight are universal. The nav charts don't change. Flight computers don't change. The physics of flight don't change just because you are flying in the Army. If you have flight time, you will have a *tiny* leg up once you get into flight school. This is more evident if you are instrument rated. Please don't try and rationalize the idea that applicants with flight time is a negative thing just because you don't/didn't have any flight time yourself. Although you don't need flight time, it will help you on the selection board. That is just reality.I had over 200 hours and an instrument rating when I went to flight school, as did my stick buddy. It was a tiny leg up but it was also nothing that makes you a better aviator or student, especially after moving to your advanced airframes. Quote
ByteFlighter Posted November 14, 2017 Posted November 14, 2017 I had over 200 hours and an instrument rating when I went to flight school, as did my stick buddy. It was a tiny leg up but it was also nothing that makes you a better aviator or student, especially after moving to your advanced airframes.  Not having flight hours isn’t a problem. The Army will teach you to fly their way regardless of how experienced you are. You would be starting with a blank slate unlike others who might have old habits to break or difficulty adapting to the way the Army teaches, which is far different from the civilian world. Absolutely. I wasn't implying it makes you a Chuck Yeager or anything. Just that civilian flight time prior to IERW, at the very least, is not a negative thing. This isn't to single you out directly, I just hear that talking point quite often because it sounds logical enough in theory, but in practice it doesn't hold water. Quote
Creep0321 Posted November 14, 2017 Posted November 14, 2017 Its not a negative by any means, and probably means you dont have to study some aspects so hard, since you already have the prerequisite knowledge. However from what I saw, this was detrimental to their overall grade/standing since they didnt study as much as some of the newer folks, they were happy with not studying and pulling 94/95s on tests 89/90 on checkride, thats middle of the pack come OML/selection time is all Im saying. Now if you go into it still trying to learn as much as possible, and treat it like your new, it will be an advantage, no doubt about it in my mind. I just didnt see that. Quote
ec93 Posted November 15, 2017 Posted November 15, 2017 Any civilians get word yet? Spoke with my recruiter and he said he hasn't heard/seen anything yet regarding civilian results. Going nutty waiting. Quote
WillyB Posted November 16, 2017 Posted November 16, 2017 Any civilians get word yet? Spoke with my recruiter and he said he hasn't heard/seen anything yet regarding civilian results. Going nutty waiting. From what I know the results will not be sent out until next week. Its still going on until friday. Quote
ec93 Posted November 16, 2017 Posted November 16, 2017 Ah okay, thanks for the heads up. For some reason I thought I read that the civvys get their results in the first few days of the board and the AD results come out the week after. Quote
Jumperjump123 Posted November 16, 2017 Posted November 16, 2017 My recruiter just let me know I was selected. I don't know how I ended up on this board but her 1sg said he triple checked lol 2 Quote
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