Pogue Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 Way better than the 22. Good bye and good riddins to the 22!You might want to actually sell one in the US before you bury Robinson... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IFLY Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 I found some information on the G2 European Aviation Safety AgencyEASATYPE CERTIFICATEDATA SHEETCABRI G2 8. Airspeed limits: VNE power-on = 130 kt - 2kt / 1000 ft ZpVNE power-off = 110 kt - 2kt / 1000 ft Zp9. Rotor Speed Limits: Power on: 515 – 540 rpmPower off: 450 – 610 rpm10. Maximum OperatingAltitude 13 000 ft HPTemperature: Refer to Flight Manual11. Operating Limitations: Day VFRFlight under known icing condition and aerobatic maneuvers prohibitedFor additional information, refer to flight manual12. Maximum Certified Weights: Take-off and landing 700 kg (1543 lb) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechanic Posted February 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 Hey, Hope everyone’s New Year is going ok for you. I found a new video of this neat little helicopter. The company IXAir is using them in flight training. The video shows 2 in the cockpit doing some maneuvers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechanic Posted February 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 I have also found a link to the Type Cert for the Cabri G2. According to the Cert. this heli does use a certified Lycom O-360-J2A, a R22BII engine. I wonder how long before we start seeing a few on this side of the pond?? EASA Type Cert Link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MN Heli Flyer Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 Very interesting Helicopter!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldy Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 Looks like a very capable cool little ship. But I think it will a few centuries before it replaces the R22, unless of course, students want to start paying $500/hr for training. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heli.pilot Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 Obviously there are a lot of uninformed people who post comments on youtube, however for what it's worth someone made a comment there about it being cheaper than an R-22, in France at least. Did you find somewhere that quoted $500 an hour, Goldy? Or is that an educated guess? I think competition is a great thing, and as much as I like Robbies, I think a little competition will only make them better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechanic Posted February 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 I converted the dollar to Canadian dollars. 489cad= 385usd for R22 time. Used rates from a school in AB Can. I converted the dollar to Euro. 440euro= 565usd for R22 time.I converted the dollar to Euro. 700euro= 899usd for R44 time.Used a school rate from France. So yes they may be paying 390euro= 500usd for Cabri G2?????? Here is a fairly new article from AINonline. AINonline link This link says the G2 currently sells for $360k, Raven 1 and 300c range. "The Cabri is roomier, more comfortable and faster. It has a big luggage compartment, is crashworthy and has more range." according to Guimbal, over the R22. They are also claiming higher TBO's to offset the price tag.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldy Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 (edited) Did you find somewhere that quoted $500 an hour, Goldy? Or is that an educated guess? It's not a guess, its an estimate! In legal terms there is a difference! Just based on the selling price you can pretty well figure out what a flight school would have to charge. I still want to fly one if anyone has one laying around. BTW, Robinson just announced their end of year results. 893 new Robbies were built. 164 of those were R22's, leaving 729 R44's. I'd love to see Cabri at HAI this year.. Goldy Edited February 3, 2009 by Goldy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Coaster Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 Anyone ever hear if that AK1-3 Ptarmigan went into production? Website doesn't say much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heli.pilot Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 It's not a guess, its an estimate! In legal terms there is a difference!Sorry, I did say "educated guess"! I like the term guesstimate - perhaps I should have used that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
67november Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 Sorry, I did say "educated guess"! I like the term guesstimate - perhaps I should have used that? a "SWAG" works well also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heli.pilot Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 a "SWAG" works well alsoSWAG? I'm pretty sure I know what the "WAG" is, but not the "S"! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
67november Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 SWAG? I'm pretty sure I know what the "WAG" is, but not the "S"! Scientific Wild A$$ Guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MN Heli Flyer Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 Scientific Wild A$$ Guess Interesting saying. Not to be confused with the following. In Australian historical terms, a swag is a waterproof bedroll. In modern times, relatively fancy swags have been developed that make swags into a portable shelter. Wikapedia at its finest! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heli.pilot Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 Scientific Wild A$$ Guess Ahhhh - scientific! I had the "WAG" figured out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave7373 Posted February 4, 2009 Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 The Article I read quoted 175,000 Turn-key for the Cabri. I believe it was last month in Buisness and Commercial aviation (totaly the wrong market for them) I assume it ment USD, I dont believe it specified currancy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrilsekr Posted February 4, 2009 Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 SWAGStuff We All Get As in all the free stuff they will be handing out like key chains and bottle openers at the booths at HAI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechanic Posted February 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 I guess I had overlooked some other AINonline articles.... I could not find where they said 175 as a price... AINonline linkAINonline linkLink 1Link 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heli.pilot Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 Thanks for posting those articles, they give quite a lot of information. It sounds like a good ship, I'd like to see one... better yet - fly one. I like that it has a little over 100 pounds more useful load than the R22. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EC120AV8R Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 I just read an update article on this ship in Aviation International News. Apparently they are trying to complete two ships per month, and they have had 5 orders since June. The company claims to have "200 prospective customers". The kicker is, this little ship is 350K. I don't see it replacing the R22 any time soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK1-3 Posted July 4, 2014 Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 Aerocopter AK1-3 videos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeroscout Posted July 4, 2014 Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 That AK1 looks nice ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagle5 Posted July 4, 2014 Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 Well look at this a very, very, very, old thread who's predictions still haven't come true. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK1-3 Posted July 4, 2014 Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 And thanks to our God!We have nice bird. Nice quality. Nice aircraft performance characteristics. Reliable engine build by Subaru for its aircrafts. And some artificial constraints regarding "non certified/ not aviation" gives us the real chance to look forward and implement other goals. The Aerocopter team is happy to say "Hello!" to all of you, dear Aviation Aces! You are the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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