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In CA and many other states they are issued by the County Sheriff or the Police Chief of the agency in the city and county where you live. The biggest thing with CCW is the reciprocity agreements change all the time. Especially after elections and a lot of times these agreements are very politically oriented. If you are going to carry into other states, make sure you have updated information. Ive stopped and detained many people in my years as a cop who were carrying weapons on valid CCWs that they "thought" were valid in CA. Depending on who you run into, it could land you in jail. In my case, I chose to enforce the sprit of the law and educate and send them on their way. In my book, if you had a valid CCW, valid ID and you were not a turd, I would chalk it up as being misinformed. However, I know many cops who have hooked people up and taken them to jail for it. So if you are going to carry... just remember traveling to different states with a gun is just like going to a different country. Their laws are their laws and they don't really care what you did in your homeland.

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I figure... in every case, the person immediately informed me they were a CCW holder as I walked up to the car. I like that. Tells me you arent a turd and you know how to follow simple instructions. In one stop in particular, the guy said "I have a valid FL CCW sir and my weapon is on my right hip." I said "You said your CCW was valid? Where? Surely you didnt mean in CA?" His eyes got a pretty desperate look. I schooled him on the errors of his ways. I remember he was carrying a cutom Les Baer 1911. Had to be a $3000 pistol. My mindset was that there was no way I could book a gun like that into evidence. So in reality I was setting his pistol free. :)

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In CA and many other states they are issued by the County Sheriff or the Police Chief of the agency in the city and county where you live. The biggest thing with CCW is the reciprocity agreements change all the time. Especially after elections and a lot of times these agreements are very politically oriented. If you are going to carry into other states, make sure you have updated information. Ive stopped and detained many people in my years as a cop who were carrying weapons on valid CCWs that they "thought" were valid in CA. Depending on who you run into, it could land you in jail. In my case, I chose to enforce the sprit of the law and educate and send them on their way. In my book, if you had a valid CCW, valid ID and you were not a turd, I would chalk it up as being misinformed. However, I know many cops who have hooked people up and taken them to jail for it. So if you are going to carry... just remember traveling to different states with a gun is just like going to a different country. Their laws are their laws and they don't really care what you did in your homeland.

 

Lesson to be learned....Don't go to CA.....EVER.... :D

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Lesson to be learned....Don't go to CA.....EVER.... :D

 

Ha, exactly.

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Rule of thumb... if its fun AND legal in another state, safe bet it will be illegal in CA.

Haha good stuff!

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I don't know if you are at Rucker or not, but the process for Dale County is simple. Go to the sheriff's office, hand them $20-$30 bucks, have them take your picture, and leave with a permit.

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LoL back when I got mine it was in Coffee County and they didn't even take my picture. I never really carried it on my hip, just in my car on all those back roads type trips.

 

And of course here in NY you can't even own a pistol without a permit, so if any of you get stationed here after flight school make sure you do something with your pistol. I would not recommend bringing it here and trying to store it in the arms room.

 

The process to get a permit here takes an incredibly long time. A friend of mine has been waiting for a year now. I sold mine when I left AL :(

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Lindsey I have a Glock 23 which is a 40cal version of the 19. Same everything except barrel and mag. I'll let you shoot before you buy if you want

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And of course here in NY you can't even own a pistol without a permit, so if any of you get stationed here after flight school make sure you do something with your pistol. I would not recommend bringing it here and trying to store it in the arms room.

 

The process to get a permit here takes an incredibly long time. A friend of mine has been waiting for a year now. I sold mine when I left AL :(

 

Did I read this correctly? Are you telling me that you can't take a privately owned pistol into the State of New York? Even in your own home, without a permit? WTF?

 

What if you live on post?

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That is incorrect regarding pistols. It is now too late to register "assault weapons", however you may bring a pistol to Ft Drum and upon arriving immediately turn it over to Emergency Services and the Military Police. You will then make arrangements for it in your units arms room while waiting for a pistol permit in Jefferson county. I have not actually gone through this process but considering all of this was put out by Ft Drum I would consider it fairly accurate, you may just want to call up the post and ask. Also note that you are protected under the Firearms Owners Protection Act, in particular 18 US Code 926A Interstate Transport of Firearms however there have been reports that the New York State Police do not recognize that federal law, and have arrested people, forcing them to go to court and often have the charges thrown out. They will get you though if you stop in the state for more than gas or food.

 

http://www.drum.army.mil/mountaineer/Article.aspx?ID=6442

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CEcQFjAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.drum.army.mil%2FEmergencyServices%2FDocuments%2FFt%2520Drum%2520190-6%25202012.pdf&ei=VB2uU-XWEI-lqAakyYDIDg&usg=AFQjCNHUitJEnSD_jwbfvsa-tZ6rcbSqOw&sig2=lKZsGKyNpAU4mnKftgkWZg&bvm=bv.69837884,d.b2k

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Let me just say, NY is the last place you want to get caught with a firearm, or even more than 7 rounds in a mag. Upstate by Drum you may have some leniency since some people up there still have common sense. Down on LI/NYC where I'm originally from, not a chance. It took one of my uncles a year to get his permit just to purchase a pistol, not even carry. And that consisted of the Sheriff coming to his house for an interview. I would estimate 80% of police in lower NY are completely against the 2A. I have another uncle that is LEO and he is adamant that only cops should have guns.

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Let me just say, NY is the last place you want to get caught with a firearm, or even more than 7 rounds in a mag. Upstate by Drum you may have some leniency since some people up there still have common sense. Down on LI/NYC where I'm originally from, not a chance. It took one of my uncles a year to get his permit just to purchase a pistol, not even carry. And that consisted of the Sheriff coming to his house for an interview. I would estimate 80% of police in lower NY are completely against the 2A. I have another uncle that is LEO and he is adamant that only cops should have guns.

All I can say to this is wow.

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I would rather take another tour in Korea than go to Drum. Korea is another country. NY has no excuse other than liberal anti-gunners.

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That is incorrect regarding pistols. It is now too late to register "assault weapons", however you may bring a pistol to Ft Drum and upon arriving immediately turn it over to Emergency Services and the Military Police. You will then make arrangements for it in your units arms room while waiting for a pistol permit in Jefferson county. I have not actually gone through this process but considering all of this was put out by Ft Drum I would consider it fairly accurate, you may just want to call up the post and ask. Also note that you are protected under the Firearms Owners Protection Act, in particular 18 US Code 926A Interstate Transport of Firearms however there have been reports that the New York State Police do not recognize that federal law, and have arrested people, forcing them to go to court and often have the charges thrown out. They will get you though if you stop in the state for more than gas or food.

 

http://www.drum.army.mil/mountaineer/Article.aspx?ID=6442

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CEcQFjAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.drum.army.mil%2FEmergencyServices%2FDocuments%2FFt%2520Drum%2520190-6%25202012.pdf&ei=VB2uU-XWEI-lqAakyYDIDg&usg=AFQjCNHUitJEnSD_jwbfvsa-tZ6rcbSqOw&sig2=lKZsGKyNpAU4mnKftgkWZg&bvm=bv.69837884,d.b2k

 

Poor choice of wording on my part. Yes you CAN turn it in and have it stored in the arms room. BUT, once it is there you're paying money to get it out one way or another. Either the fee to get the license or for an FFL to come pick it up. I recommend to everyone coming up here that if they have some way to store their pistols and "assault weapons" in another state that they do so.

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When I was in flight school, a student was kicked out of the Army for accidentally shooting himself in the leg with another students unregistered weapon in housing. :blink:

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