Lindsey Posted March 5, 2015 Posted March 5, 2015 Damn dude, so many people online right now we need a chat room. It's been a good convo but I gotta get up for WOAC PT in the morning. FML... Are you in the same class as Kutlik? Quote
Joe_P148 Posted March 5, 2015 Posted March 5, 2015 No I just checked my roster, there is another class though. 1 Quote
madcityjets Posted March 5, 2015 Posted March 5, 2015 (edited) apacheguy.... sure if you say so. Not trying to talk crap here but the fact is that we generally didn't have the time to wait when the troops really needed us in a pinch. When the apaches were there they were great for the support, but I would say that was about 20% of the time (not including the bag and trash missions) that we could have used them. Blackhawks provide the med-chase (and therefore gun support) for most medevac missions because the apaches are simply too slow. When I was doing an air assault it was over about 75% of the time before the apaches arrived. When I was inserting rangers in the middle of the night we didn't even bother - we were flying too low and too fast for the apaches to make a difference. When I was flying down a valley and was called by a ground force commander to pick up troops in contact, there was no time to wait for the apaches. There are a heck of a lot more hawks than there are apaches. Sheer numbers will tell anyone that they are therefore not going to be able to cover all of the lift missions, even the ones that could use gun support. I am not knocking the apaches. They are great. But to say that there is not a lift mission without the guns is a gross misrepresentation of reality. Hawks are quite often their own gun support, and the gun support for other hawks.All I know is a two short years ago it didn't happen in RC East, whether it was 58's or 64's, not only the ring routes but also the alphabet agency missions, I will be leaving soon for another round along with all my peers I met last time around....hawks and hooks Lindsey, go with your gut...I knew people that were dead set on a particular airframe all the way up the day of selection of when their name was called and they picked something else. I do fly the E, and have made many friends flying in my CAB that I flew with last time around that were very happy to have us there with them on ring routes or whatever they were doing that night, just like the customer was happy they weren't on a contract flight or in a convoy..... Edited March 5, 2015 by madcityjets 1 Quote
Yamer Posted March 5, 2015 Posted March 5, 2015 WOAC PTBaaaaaaaahahahahahaNow that's funny right there.... Quote
Velocity173 Posted March 5, 2015 Posted March 5, 2015 Had 13 64s offered in my class. Only two picked it. Bottom 11, the choice was made for them. Unfortunately one of those would later die flying it. Quote
Velocity173 Posted March 5, 2015 Posted March 5, 2015 I thought you had already picked 60s and Carson Lindsey? Quote
Lindsey Posted March 5, 2015 Posted March 5, 2015 I thought you had already picked 60s and Carson Lindsey?Nope. Got mono in the middle of BWS which is a two month downslip. So I'm using the time to do some hard thinking about what I'd like to fly. Quote
Velocity173 Posted March 5, 2015 Posted March 5, 2015 Nope. Got mono in the middle of BWS which is a two month downslip. So I'm using the time to do some hard thinking about what I'd like to fly.Oh, well that sucks. Well you know what I'd tell ya to pick. 😉 Quote
WaterRooster Posted March 6, 2015 Posted March 6, 2015 Nope. Got mono in the middle of BWS which is a two month downslip. So I'm using the time to do some hard thinking about what I'd like to fly.Isn't mono the "kissing" disease? Hmmmm haha Quote
Lindsey Posted March 6, 2015 Posted March 6, 2015 Isn't mono the "kissing" disease? Hmmmm hahaShhhhh ;-) But really, I have no idea how I got it. No one else I know has it. Quote
magnus017 Posted March 20, 2015 Posted March 20, 2015 Curious, what's the current duty station outlook for 64's? I've done some Googling but haven't found much current/relevant info. I guess the big question is, do they have 64's in Hawaii? I've heard different things :S. Quote
Lindsey Posted March 20, 2015 Posted March 20, 2015 Curious, what's the current duty station outlook for 64's? I've done some Googling but haven't found much current/relevant info. I guess the big question is, do they have 64's in Hawaii? I've heard different things :S.March 2016 is what HRC told us. E models. 1 Quote
Flying Pig Posted March 20, 2015 Posted March 20, 2015 Shhhhh ;-) But really, I have no idea how I got it. No one else I know has it.Noboby else you "know"..... has it? As in ...."knowledge of.... in the biblical sense?" Hmmmmm. In police work we call this a clue. 1 Quote
Joe_P148 Posted March 20, 2015 Posted March 20, 2015 They are moving to lewis. No 64s I'm hawaii. Quote
brackac Posted March 20, 2015 Posted March 20, 2015 They are moving to lewis. No 64s I'm hawaii. 64's in Hawaii around calendar year 2017, pending Congressional approval to move all 200 Apache's from the Guard to Active duty. This is from Mcnellie. 1 Quote
SemperGumby Posted April 10, 2015 Posted April 10, 2015 There's still whispers among the guys PCSing after this deployment that 64s in Hawaii may still be on. Although one of our guys who got verbally slated for Hawaii was re-routed to somewhere else. Another W-4 said that he just got an e-mail from the branch manager that it's still on. So, take all that with a grain of salt. Quote
SemperGumby Posted April 10, 2015 Posted April 10, 2015 ....actually, lift missions happen all the time without gun support. Yeah, that's what's going on in theater (AFG) right now. I don't think I remember flying a true escort job (from take off to destination) in the past eight months. We work with lift often but mostly with the 47s on certain types of jobs but not much with the hawks. They (lift) do their thing all the time without gun support. 1 Quote
madcityjets Posted April 12, 2015 Posted April 12, 2015 Yeah, that's what's going on in theater (AFG) right now. I don't think I remember flying a true escort job (from take off to destination) in the past eight months. We work with lift often but mostly with the 47s on certain types of jobs but not much with the hawks. They (lift) do their thing all the time without gun support.As always things change as the environment changes. I'll be back very soon for the RIP, but not going back to what used to be RC East.... Quote
Yamer Posted April 15, 2015 Posted April 15, 2015 Selection today for me, well, them... More to follow 1 Quote
Lindsey Posted April 15, 2015 Posted April 15, 2015 I heard 3 Chinooks and 4 Blackhawks?? Is that right, Yamer? Quote
Creep0321 Posted April 15, 2015 Posted April 15, 2015 That sounds like a good day to me, if it's correct... but judging by Yamer's picture he wouldn't be too happy... Quote
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